I really like Mud Walker.  It has a great deal of features and the
preference menu is very easy to navigate with VO.  The problem is it opens a
terminal window for the actual mud output that VO does not seem to focus on
and you cannot easily get speech feedback from.  You can use the Window
Chooser function to find the window, but VO does not stay with the window
and it is hard to read back the text from the screen, for some reason.
Salvatar is another potentially good client, but I got lip service back from
the developer when I wrote him about accessibility with VO.  The text area
is not seen at all by VO in that case.

Take Care
 


John D. Panarese
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9 Nolan Court
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filewithfine control over synthesized speech settings.

ooooh!  you are an admin??? Neato.

I would love to play around with a mu* at some point, but I don't know if I
could fit one on here.  Hmm ...

Anyhow, I like TinyFugue, always have, because it is so easy to use.   
You just put a slash in front of commands like /recall /connect and so on.
I can't remember the command to switch between worlds, and I guess that
would get interesting--I don't know.  Or there may be other clients out
there that'll be easier for Joe to play with.  I just threw TinyFugue out
there bcause I know it best.

Jane


On Mar 19, 2006, at 12:00 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>      As someone who owns and is an admin for a mud, I'd like nothing 
> more than an accessible way to access a mud with the Mac.  I've tried 
> a few Mac clients with little or no luck.  A client called, Mud 
> Walker, seems to have promise, but since I am not a programmer, I have 
> no way of knowing what kind of work would be needed.  So, if we can 
> get terminal to work, I'd love to have a mud client that would work 
> with it.
>
> Take Care
>
>
>
> John D. Panarese
> Managing Director
> Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
> 9 Nolan Court
> Hauppauge, NY 11788
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane  
> Jordan (gmail)
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:56 PM
> To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS  
> X by the
> blind
> Subject: Re: Cocoa Speech KDREV (CS-KDREV) - Convert text to audio  
> file
> withfine control over synthesized speech settings.
>
> Guess I'd better clarify.  TinyFugue is a mud client that lets you  
> connect.
> And one of its featuers I like is that you can type in a command / 
> recall and
> then a number of lines of text, and it will read those back to you.
>
> Heh.
>
> Jane
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
>
>> Hi Jane,
>>
>> No no, I need the thoughts on what the app should do...will help me
>> avoid building something that doesn't work for you. Thanks for the
>> direction and I'll check out TinyFugue too. It seems I've done
>> proof-of-concept, now will need to see how I can flesh it out.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Jane Jordan (gmail) wrote:
>>
>>> Have you ever played around with Linux and speech, Joe?  I had a  
>>> hack
>>> put together years ago, and if I understand it right, it simply read
>>> the output.  I mean, it read whatever was added to the screen.  That
>>> includes if I usea program that let me review text-- TinyFugue is an
>>> example, it would read that and then it would keep right on reading
>>> whatevert text had come up in the meantime.
>>> rkght now with terminal to read text in the window you have to
>>> interact with it and kind of guess where you last where and read  
>>> from
>>> there.  Well that's not entirely accurate either.  You have to read
>>> from the end backwardes.
>>>
>>> So I gues what would be helpful is yes to have something that will
>>> read whatever pops up onto the screen automatically.   That would
>>> make some thigns more fun on here, like playing on mucks and maybe
>>> even playing te3xt adventure ganmes.  Course, I could probably use
>>> Lynx if I wanted, too.
>>>
>>> Anyhowm I hope this long-winded email told you somehting useful. :)
>>> Jane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2006, at 3:17 AM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
>>>
>>>> *grin* A front end for the terminal shouldn't be too terribly hard.
>>>> So it should just speak automatically whenever new information
>>>> appears? i.e. the audible equivalent of what's happening visually?
>>>> Give me some basics on what it should do and I'll look at taking a
>>>> crack at it in the reasonably near future...even if it's just a
>>>> stopgap i.e. Apple might be looking at enhancing Terminal access
>>>> with VO and that's probably the most desirable/elegant solution.  
>>>> Let
>>>> me know your thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:11 AM, BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> dude! You! rock!
>>>>>
>>>>> now who gots dibs on writing a terminal app that speaks
>>>>> automatically?
>>>>> you got that covered too???
>>>>> BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> website: http://blindtechs.net
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2006, at 1:41 AM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I took a look at Lips today - which I know some of you have been
>>>>>> using regularly - with the intention of adding some of the new
>>>>>> features requested. Since Lips is written in AppleScript (using
>>>>>> AppleScript Studio) I decided, instead, to build a speech-to- 
>>>>>> audio
>>>>>> application in Objective-C/Cocoa. Information follows. Link to
>>>>>> download can be found at the end of this message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cocoa Speech KDREV (CS-KDREV) - Convert text to audio file with
>>>>>> fine control over synthesized speech settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cocoa Speech KDREV (CS-KDREV) is built on example code from Apple
>>>>>> and has the features of Lips (http://www.superpixel.ch/
>>>>>> software/lips/) plus additional features (and more), requested by
>>>>>> members of the Macvisionaries discussion list (David, Cheryl,
>>>>>> Jane, Scott, et al).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CS-KDREV is written in Objective-C/Cocoa and is a Universal
>>>>>> Application i.e. natively-compatible with both PowerPC and
>>>>>> Intel-based Macs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Installing CS-KDREV
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unzip CS-KDREV and place the application anywhere on your Mac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CS-KDREV Features
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Listen to text read by any of the installed speech voices or
>>>>>> render text to audio file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CS-KDREV plays the system beep when conversion to audio file is
>>>>>> complete.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy fine control of Speech Voice settings. Adjust speech rate,
>>>>>> pitch, pitch modulation and volume.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using CS-KDREV
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quick Start
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Type or paste text into the text field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At launch, CS-KDREV defaults to the System Voice. You can select
>>>>>> any of the installed speech engines with the "Voice" pop up menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To audition text with the selected speech engine and settings,
>>>>>> click the "Start Speaking" button. To render text to audio file
>>>>>> click the "Save as File..." button. An audio file (AIFF 22.05  
>>>>>> Mono
>>>>>> 16 bit) will be saved at the selected location.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additional Information
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The CS-KDREV window includes two tabs: The "Voice" and
>>>>>> "Parameters" Tabs. The "Voice" tab is selected by default at
>>>>>> launch. When the Voice tab is selected, you can navigate to the
>>>>>> the "Voice" pop up menu and select from any of the installed
>>>>>> speech voices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Click the "Parameters" tab to access additional speech settings.
>>>>>> In the "Parameters" pane you can adjust speech rate, pitch base,
>>>>>> pitch modulation and volume. Each of these settings are
>>>>>> displayed/adjusted in an edit text field. Edit text fields are
>>>>>> populated with default settings whenever you select or reselect a
>>>>>> voice. If you change settings for a particular voice and want to
>>>>>> restore the default settings, simply reselect the voice (in the
>>>>>> "Voice" pane using the pop up menu) and default settings will be
>>>>>> restored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOTE: The current version of CS-KDREV is a document-based
>>>>>> application. If there is text in the main text field when you  
>>>>>> quit
>>>>>> the application you will be asked if "...you want to save the
>>>>>> changes you made to the document "Untitled"". If you do not wish
>>>>>> to save the contents of the main text field to a file click the
>>>>>> "Don't Save" button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Support
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This software is free software, is provided as is and is not
>>>>>> formally supported. That being said, you may wish to send any
>>>>>> questions or feature requests to the macvisionaries
>>>>>> (www.macvisionaries.com) "Dicsuss" list or directly to the
>>>>>> developer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Download Cocoa Speech KDREV (CS-KDREV):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kafkasdaytime.com/cs_kdrev.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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