ir..... really?

can i see this comparison where he doesw a 180 turn?

will you be recording your presentation?
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On Mar 19, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote:

John,

Thanks for the info. I'm ready to take Jay's critique apart by comparing it to another critique he did of WIndow Eyes and JAWS. He complains about the same key issues on VO that he praises on JAWS.... It's kinda funny really. I came through a grad program 2 years ago, and had to fight tooth and nail for Mac advocacy.... Thanks for the message

Your Friend,
Sean


On Mar 19, 2006, at 10:40 AM, John Panarese wrote:

     I think one of the biggest problems is the general belief that
"everyone uses PCs", so why bother with the Mac. It needs to be pointed out that this may have been true five plus years ago, but many companies are actually turning away from Windows based systems and applications. Also, you will here, in this day of cut budgets in the rehab field, that Macs are too expensive compared to PCs. Well, this may be true in the initial system by system comparison, but besides adding on the cost of the Windows screen reader, there was an interesting study done that points out that within a
year's time, Macs are actually half the cost of a PC to maintain.

Finally, keep in mind that the ugliness of the AFB review of VoiceOver Jay Leventhal did last year still is lingering out there. You may very well find some blind folks who will tell you, "well, Jay Leventhal said VO isn't worth the time, so...". Be prepared to deal with this, and I don't think you can do it with the bluntness that I do, as I am not associated with
Apple and don't care what gets back to the reviewer....

Take Care



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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LARRY WANGER
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:28 AM
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby the
blind
Subject: Re: CSUN presentation

Hi,

Great that you will be giving the presentation. I'm someone who recently moved from primarily using the PC to using the Mac for many things. I'd say that the number one thing that I faced and heard from folks was that they
are comfortable with what they've got for accessibility so why learn
something new and deal with all of that. I think many PC and Jaws users are just content to stay with what they've got. Arguments such as VO being built right in and magnification software the same way and the lower cost are good reasons that might get people to consider this. However, I think another issue is that VR counselors and the lot make decisions about what to buy computer users at times and its hard to sell them on the benefits. The VR counselor is thinking that the PC is what everyone uses so why not stay
with that.

Beyond that are myths about compatibility and, to tell you the truth, I was making mountains out of hills and I've just not had too many problems. This is where I think Apple could do a better job as its not even a VO or access issue. Its simple marketing and, until Apple gets right out there and in peoples faces at the Best Buys and computer stores, people aren't going to
get that message.

I've found that one on one, face to face teaching and demonstrations are
just the best way to get people up to speed.  I tried the Apple Store
approach and it almost turned me away from buying a Mac. I think you have a good opportunity to show some people the ease of use with this machine.

Best of luck.


Check out my blog at http://lsw999.blogspot.com/

Larry Wanger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Tikkun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: CSUN presentation


Discussion group,

My name is Sean Richards Tikkun and I have the honor of presenting VO at CSUN. I am a Vision / O&M instructor with a couple years of experience, a focus in technology and a huge passion for Mac. I'm trying to head off

arguments before they happen. Having experience with JAWS and navigating

websites we all know it is still less than perfect. Can you give me any
pointers on things that work for you  guys?  I'm looking for those
practical everyday tips that people  really appreciate when you can
sprinkle them in to a 2-hr presentation.

Thanks a Million,
Sean Tikkun

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