Hi Scott,
Well, if Apple is aware of these issues and are working on
them, I would assume that they will-figure out something. Have you
also done any searches on the forums and such to see if anyone else
is experiencing this sort of thing? This approach has actually
helped me solve a few oddities I've had with Windows that MS claims
are "system specific".
Take Care
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On May 7, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
John, actually there are two issues I'm dealing with, but one I
think I have resolved.
1. If you put your computer to sleep, normally if you press a key
it will wake up, it will do so and stay awake.
Well mine would go back to sleep within 10-15 seconds if I did not
enter my password.
I have in System Preferences/Security the checkbox "require
password to wake this computer from sleep or screensaver" checked.
Ok so I'm a little security concious, but I dont' generally logout
and well lazy I guess...grin
In any event, if you check this box, put your machine to sleep,
press a key, and do not enter a password within that 10-15 second
timeframe, the machine will go back to sleep. Well this makes sense
and is fine, but when scheduling the machine to wakeup and perform
some task, no password is entered, thus the machine will happily go
right back to sleep. This is one problem and at least now I
understand what's going on. I would have assumed that the os would
know the difference between a user event like a key being pressed
etc. and a system or predetermined event such as waking up to do
whatever or wake for the user to login etc.
Now the other issue and I'm still trying to test this is if you set
the machine to wakeup during week days only, it as far as I can
tell would not wake, but if I set it to everyday, it would wake
just fine.
So, there's testing to do, but I hope that Apple will find a way to
do what makes sense. I wanted my machine to wakeup at a certain
time and pull down podcasts which is a cron job, the cron jobs will
not wake the box themselves and I wonder if they will run even if
I'm not logged in. I'll assume they do as I believe that most Unix
flavors and Linux flavors will do this.
Yes I could leave the machine up all the time, but being as I'm not
hear for a considerable chunk of the day, what is the point in
wasting electricity etc. Ay ok the Mac doesn't draw that much
power, but its just how I want to do things.
Scott
On May 7, 2006, at 12:36 PM, JOHN PANARESE wrote:
Hi Scott,
Maybe you mentioned this in a previous message, but what is
Apple's take on this? Is this a known problem across other
systems? As I said, I don't use the sleep function, so I've never
dealt with it. I'm going to ask a friend of mine if he messes
with it when he gets back from vacation. He has a bunch of
different Macs and is also one of those types of folks who loves
mucking around and getting to the bottom of technical mysteries.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
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On May 7, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
John,
You bet, if I get any feedback from Apple, I'll share that info.
Btw, yes the sleep issue creates all kinds of discussion, but
when I started mucking about with it, I anticipated a particular
behavior and when something else happen, I was very interested in
why the results were different.
What I've noticed is that when set to everyday, it will wake up,
but what is definately odd is the fact that this is the only time
it'll wake up as far as I can tell. What also is even more odd is
when it does wake up, if you have your machine set to require a
password to wake from sleep or unlock the screen, and you do not
enter that password, the machine goes back to sleep. This
behavior makes sense if you accidentally hit a key and woke the
machine up, but it should upon a scheduled event wake and stay
running until you put it back to sleep etc.
This is one of those things Apple should address because it
doesn't function as one would expect.
Will share any results on this as well.
Scott
On May 6, 2006, at 2:51 PM, JOHN PANARESE wrote:
Hi Scott,
It is nice to have the problem confirmed. It's really odd
that that particular file is making VO crash. The other three
product info sheets I got with it all work fine. It frustrates
me further that I can open it in Windows...
Good luck with the sleep problem. Let us know how it works
out. I really haven't messed much with the sleep settings. I
just keep the machine running during the work day and use the
screen saver. I know that topic has caused a bit of
controversy, but it works fine for me.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
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On May 6, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
And so I did, I submitted this to Apple, I could reproduce the
problem consistantly. Very interesting so I sent along the log
as well.
Scott
On May 5, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
I haven't seen that, but look for the crash log in library/
logs and if this is something to happens consistantly, I'd
consider submitting it as an issue. If you want to send it
along, I'd happily see how it behaves.
Scott
On May 5, 2006, at 5:24 PM, JOHN PANARESE wrote:
Hi folks,
I haven't used Preview to read PDF files much, but I got
a few today I wanted to give a test run with on my iBook.
Oddly enough, when Preview opened and I tried to read the
file, it sounded as if VO kept crashing. I kept getting the
"VoiceOver is running" announcement, without fail, any time I
attempted to navigate in Preview to read the file. Has
anyone encountered this problem and if so, any particular
reason why this might be happening. I was able to read the
document with Adobe on my Windows box.
Thanks
John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
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