On 13 May 2006, at 00:03, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi Tim. Re the mail issue, nope, I have removed the Cepstral voices from my system,. including all prefs, because they're unstable. I'm using the Apple Fred voice, but I've tried others...same results. I can duplicate the mouse issues 100%, and the Mail issues are most noticeable when replying to posts. When originating posts, it seems to work as expected. So actually I am not sure why the Cepstral voices would've affected that ... but anything's possible.


Hi all,

1. regarding the ctrl+option+cmd+shift+f5 issue. I've only experienced this issue once that I can remember but of course I can't remember the specifics. I did some testing just for fun and the mouse moved exactly like it was supposed to even when the mouse was in the menubar to begin with.

2. The Mail issue that Gordon speaks of. I've never seen that issue on any of my units. Occasionally I've had it where VO will not speak "every word" like I've set it to upon interacting with the HTML Content but it's never been consistent. If I Quit Mail and restart it, it will behave normally. Is it possible that your issue Gordon has to do with the Cepstral Voices? Until we determine a consistent time where this becomes apparent, there's not a lot that can be done. Not to say that there isn't a problem, just thinking that a little testing from us all would be more productive than venting.

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