Ok well I beg your pardon then, I saw something with a touch screen
and I thought it to be an Ipod Nano.
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On 30/05/2006, at 5:47 AM, LARRY WANGER wrote:
The Nano does not have a touch screen. I've tried to use one
before. It is very similar to larger iPod models but smaller. Its
so small I have trouble working the controls. No iPod at this
point exists with just a touch screen interface. This has been
rumored to be in the next incarnation of the iPod but as of yet is
not. I have a friend who has the newest video iPod and I myself
use a 4th generation iPod and by using the clicks and such that the
device makes when moving around I can navigate some features. Can
I bring up a specific artist to listen to...No. But, I can find
the playlist I want just by memorizing that playlists menu option
is 2 clicks down, select the item and then I have 6 playlists that
come up and by clicking down the list and having them memorized I
can navigate. The one at the top being 80's, one click down being
90's, 5 clicks down being jazz and so on. I'd love to be able to
access all of the features but it works for me. The shuffle is
totally useful and I use one at the gym regularly. So, while these
devices are not perfect for the blind and could be far better, they
can be used.
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Subject: Re: Accessible Ipods, will apple make a jump down this road?
Well, at my end I'll happily end this discussion by saying that
no matter what the accessability argument is, the Ipod shuffle
is perfectly useable so go and buy one and its nice to have a
perfectly usable product for a change as my DVD Player, VCR
recorder are perfectly usable because I sat down and spent time
working them out.
The Ipod Nano on the other hand is something that I doubt you'll
ever get truly usable for a blind person because (the way it
seems to me) it has a touch screen so that goes out the window
but I'm not going to wage war against Apple just because they
bring out something with a flat touch screen, I'll just keep
using the shuffle or find something better such as an Iriver etc.
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On 30/05/2006, at 12:38 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
Turn this around just a bit. The shuffle lacks certain
accessibility features which would benefit blind and sighted
alike. Now, while it is true that accessible is the same or
nearly so for sighted and blind alike, we see that
acccessibility can be improved for both. I hope this begins to
make sense. We don't compair the accessibility of a product for
different groups and if found equally accessible say the product
is accessible. We look at what makes something truly
acceessible. This product needs a lot of work, but it is not
alone.
On May 29, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I'm really puzzled here.
What exactly is your definition of accessible?
If I can access all the functions of a unit, and I can do it in
exactly the same way the sighted folks do, regardless of the
device, or the medium, isn't that accessible?
I don't care that the shuffle doesn't have certain functions in
it. I.E. voice feedback for song titles, or play counters or the
like. The important thing is that it works for us exactly the
same way it works for the sighted people using it. What about
this scenario is not accessible?
And what about a cd player isn't accessible?
I can put a cd in my player, move forward, backward, skip songs,
and even randomly play songs if I desire (assuming the player has
a button for this function) here, I don't see a difference
between sighted/nonsighted access either. Most cd players
(except for the portable ones) don't have a display for sighted
folks either, so where's the non accessible features?
I believe you're confusing accessibility with feature rich. Just
because something doesn't have a feature I'd like, doesn't make
it inaccessible, it merely makes it not robust enough for my
liking. That's a completely different issue than being able to
use it's functions without sighted assistance.
Please try explaining what exactly it is you're trying to say
here, because I for one don't understand your point.
