I go back to the early days of computers and voice synthesizers and I agree, having something not spoken automatically does tend to slow you down a little as you have to spend a little more time reviewing what you imagine to have taken place but again, its not essentual. I used Outspoken on a Mac with Microsoft Word for example and it was the done thing to be able to browse the screen affectively to find out what was going on at any one time, you'd be prompted allot of the time that the screen had changed so then it was up to the user to find out what had changed and where. If you think this is bad then I go back further to the mid 70s to Cp/M machines I used which had no speech feedback whatsoever, so you wrote or did you had to do and then reviewed what you'd done using specific commands to read by voice from the keyboard, that's about as manual as you can get and yes, it took time but I actually think that in many ways, the end product was better because you were forced to review your work thus you didn't really want to make any mistakes to save yourself time.

On 08/06/2006, at 10:04 AM, Gabriel Vega wrote:

hmmmm, I've used many types of adaptive technologies even going back to the original outspoken fcor the mac and some odd ones like vert plus for my dos box 386. and I'm telling you, being that something is not read to me automatically, does slow me down, believe me, I would like the convenients, but its not vital.


On Jun 7, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Jane Jordan (gmail) wrote:

We gvet *iffy* because having wstuff read to us automatically, at least for me, makes me more productive.

Jane


On Jun 7, 2006, at 1:46 AM, Gabriel Vega wrote:

for alot of those windows l*users* it would seem that they get kind of iffy, of nothing gets read to them automatically. now, its kind of a second nature to review the last couple of lines when using terminal and editing is a breeze with nano.
On Jun 6, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

I suppose I should have explained that there are plenty of commands you can run without installing anything further; because I have run linux and wanted to install more I skipped that basic fact. Having already been familiar with linux I had some ideas what I could run with the terminal so I haven't specifically done reading on the Mac's Unix system. Maybe somebody onlist can point you to some documentation. a lot of people don't know anything about the underlying Unix system when they start with the Mac; in fact, I think quite a few never do anything with it; glad you've discovered it. The way voiceover works with terminal isn't optimal but now that I'm used to it, it isn't usually a hindrance.

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