They are on the apple web site.

On Jul 9, 2006, at 11:48 PM, Tom McMahan wrote:

Unfortunately, I hear them while at work so don't have a way to record them.

In summer time we turn off satelite here at home because we don't watch tv much in Summer. And even when I did have it on I tended to hear them in the day time, not during prime time evenings.
On Jul 9, 2006, at 4:55 PM, hank smith wrote:

an I get those to?
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We don't have those over here, any chance someone could send me some audio of them? Would like to hear those, email my me privately
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On 10/07/2006, at 3:24 AM, Tom McMahan wrote:

I thought you would keep it because of it's ability to want to restart periodically.

Yes that commercial is one of the ones which are funny. "auh clock."Clock?" "a clock." "clock. "
On Jul 8, 2006, at 10:50 PM, Paul Oeser wrote:


Yes I keep my windows computer for that great clock...Just refering back to one of the comercials.
On Jul 8, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Tom McMahan wrote:

Hi John, and all.

Every time MS is about to come out with a new OS, they say their security is going to be better. But simply listen to your am radio just after, and you hear tons of complaints. The more they upgrade, it seems tohe worse it gets.

Maybe the sleeping giant will wake up. That sleeping giant being the marketplace. And let's face it, Apple does have a packaged product which doesn't require a lot of study to get on a machine and conduct common transactions for most people. Whereas other operating systems seem to require a little bit of more learning. That's why the gas station down the street still runs a Windows box, not a box with BSD or Linuxon it. Think those are still nervous about haveing tospend lots of time training their $6 per hour employees for a new system that they stick with Windows, yes while complaining, but sticking with Windows. Yet, Apple is positioned to make some good gains. If they exploit Windows's weaknesses.

They have been doing it some with the new Mac Intel comercials, true they are indirect about their slams concerning Windows but they are making their point. At least I seem to get a laughf out of the commercials.

73s.
On Jul 8, 2006, at 10:02 AM, JOHN PANARESE wrote:

It is a big part of the reason why many companies and agencies and even government entities are seeking alternatives to Windows. Vista will be no different with security issues, and Microsoft will continue to be a target and easy prey to such attacks. I've read so many articles and blogs talking about this that it's becoming hard for even the most staunch Windows supporters to ignore, like my younger brother.

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On Jul 8, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

You have to wonder just how much money Microsoft may be making out of all this <smile> I won't go on about it as its off-topic a little but I read an article in a Technology bulletin this morning which talked about how someone had written some Malicious code which replaced the Microsoft Genuine Advantage pthing for Windows XP, well all I can say is rubb salt into Microsofts wounds Nice, good and propper <smile>.


On 08/07/2006, at 11:56 AM, LARRY WANGER wrote:

Check this out.

Security Company Recommends Macs
By Walaika K. Haskins
July 5, 2006 3:30PM

"There are far, far fewer threats on Apple Macs than there are on PCs," said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at Sophos. "So home users who simply want a computer to do some Web surfing, exchange e- mails, take photographs, buy music, or make movies may find it's a much simpler life from the
malware point of view if they used a Mac instead of a PC."

A new breed of malicious software has replaced viruses and worms as the weapon of choice for Internet criminals looking to steal money from unsuspecting netizens, according to a study published Wednesday by security firm Sophos.

The report found that during the first half of 2006, the number of new worms and viruses emerging on the Internet dropped significantly, overshadowed by a new, dangerous species of Trojan horse. These Trojans, according to Sophos, now outnumber other new viruses and worms by a four-to-one margin.

In light of all the new malicious software targeting Windows PCs, Sophos recommended in the report that Windows users swap their current systems for a Mac. Making the switch to a Mac, the company said, will help safeguard against the new breed of attacks.

"Because there are so many poorly protected home computers out there running Windows, the hackers haven't had to write Mac versions of their viruses," said
Graham Cluely, senior technology consultant at Sophos.

Trojans on the Rise

Last month, Sophos identified 180,292 different types of malicious code actively circulating on the Internet, representing an increase of more than 40,000 over June 2005. The bulk of these ne'er-do-well programs are written to target Windows users.

"The criminals responsible are obviously making money from their code, otherwise they'd give up the game," Cluley said.

During the first six months of 2006, Trojans accounted for some 82 percent of new threats. Hackers prefer this type of malicious software, Sophos found, because it can be targeted at a particular group of people to increase the likelihood of tricking users into handing over information.

Unlike the old days of computer viruses when hackers wrote and released their malware in a quest to grab headlines and impress their peers, today's malicious
code writers want as little publicity as possible, Cluley noted.

"If a virus makes the front page of the New York Times, that's bad news for today's hackers," he said. "They don't want users to be aware of what they're up to, so they like to infect a smaller group of people and steal from them (identities, bank account information, and so forth) without them realizing
that they have been infected at all."

Choose a Mac

Cluley said that, after years of recommending that users take steps to better protect their computers with constantly updating security software, it is
clear that most users are not listening.

"Every antivirus program on the planet detects [the older viruses], but clearly some PC home users aren't running any effective antivirus [software] at all or haven't bothered updating it," Cluley said. "So why not switch to a computer which simply cannot be infected by these threats?"

The Sophos report indicated that the first malicious software targeting Apple's Mac OS X did not emerge until February 2006. The company also found that, in contrast to predictions from the SANS Institute and other security companies, there has been no deluge of viruses targeting the Mac.

Odds are, Cluley predicted, that Macs will "continue to be the safer place for computer users" for some time to come.

"There are far, far fewer threats on Apple Macs than there are on PCs," he said. "So home users who simply want a computer to do some Web surfing, exchange e-mails, take photographs, buy music, or make movies may find it's a much simpler life from the malware point of view if they used a Mac instead of a PC."




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