Darcy,
I really like this idea, and that's a great domain, too. A podcast
for VO users was something I had thought about doing once upon a
time, but don't have enough time to devote to it, but I wouldn't mind
helping out. I already co-host one podcast, and am somewhat involved
in the creation of another.
At 12:49 PM 7/13/2006, you wrote:
Hi David. This is actually something that Holly and I have been
planning for the screenless switchers. In addition to the podcast,
we've been planning on turning www.screenlessswitchers.com in to a
comprehensive resource for voice over related information. Drupal,
the content management system we use, allows you to
create something it calls books, which are very similar to
wikis. Books can be edited by many different people, users can
write comments on each page, revisions are kept, etc. For a while
now, I've been thinking of starting a voice over howto guide, which
would be very similar to what you guys are talking about. Of
course, it goes without saying that anyone on here who wanted to
participate could be given edit permissions. Unfortunately, The
Screenless Switchers, both the site and the podcast, aren't as far
along as I would like. This is due to some circumstances which I'll
go in to in another message.
Now obviously if Alastair as started a Wiki, I won't do my Drupal
book, since it makes no sense to have two user created voice over
guides on line. I'm still up for starting and maintaining it
though, whatever the list wants, and what Alastair wants to do is
cool with me.
Darcy
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, David Poehlman wrote:
Hi Alastair,
There has been some thought given to this but as far as I know,
nothing has come of it. I considered setting up a wiki.. I
discovered however that it takes quite a bit of work to do it using
tools that are accessible and was having trouble understanding all
of the processes for settingg one up and maintaining it. There are
a lot of "rules" to follow and the tool I have looks to be quite complex.
There is already a VoiceOver wiki on wikipedia but it just
describes VO or that'ss what it did last I looked.. There are
already some fine resources out there if grown, might bbetter suit
this particular community though. One thing a good interface for
us needs to do is allow a small number to maintain it instead of
anyone to post to it for various reasons. If for instance someone
with the skills, time and energy to do it could plum the archives,
vvalidate the information found, that could be done with the help
of others and produce plain text documents or html pages on how to
use VO doing particular things that have not already been made
publicly available, that would be hugely helpful.
On Jul. Of course, I don't speak for the list members but this has
been what I've observed over the months.
I welcome the thoughts of others and do agree that we need to home
grow a guide to help with learning and using VO and the os and apps.
13, 2006, at 6:51 AM, Alastair Campbell wrote:
Loebl, Ruth wrote:
"We need more and better introductory and training materials"
This is a re-curring theme (even in the 24 hours I've been a member
of the list!)
Quite a few communities use a "wiki" to keep up to date pages on a
certain topic. Anyone can go to any page on a wiki and select
"edit", and it opens a text box to edit the content.
For example, the CSS discuss email list has an outstanding wiki for
learning about CSS:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/
It is maintained, updated and monitored by people on the mailing
list. New items of interest get put in the appropriate place on the
wiki as you go along. This helps people who aren't on the list, and
keeps an up to date guide to the topic.
If that sounds like a good idea, I can host that and/or help get it
going? If you would prefer one of the regular list members hosted
it, I could help them set it up (assuming they have suitable hosting).
As a previous reference, I host the (under-used) JAWs scripts repository:
http://alastairc.ac/jaws-scripts/
Which is a similar idea, but more oriented to collaborative
development of scripts.
Kind regards,
-Alastair
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