Hi John,

I'm glad you are  pleased with your mac.

I too have only recently had my Mac and i have been a Windows user for years. As a blind computer user myself in some ways i think Windows is still better in some respects, but Voice Over does things that JFW and Window Eyes can't do.

In response to your question about a new version or upgrade to Voice Over, the answer is an enphatic yes! Leopard 10.5 is scheduled to release in Spring of 2007, the accessibility features include improvements to Voice Over, and Braille support, which i am especially pleased about.

Hope this helps

James - If you would like any further help, please don't hesitate to e mail me off list ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Finally, it's working


It's true. Use the Mac for whatever you can and slowly you'll become fluent in Mac-think. Personally, I still have a very long way to go. But sometimes I surprise myself by remembering a keystroke combination.

Anybody know if a new version of voiceover is scheduled to come out? I know tiger is fairly new but is Apple talking about the next version of their operating system yet? Or have they mentioned the possibility of releasing an upgrade to voiceover? Not that voiceover isn't good but it could be better.

I discovered quite accidentally last night that pressing command+w twice spells the word currently under the cursor. Pressing command+w three times spells it with the NATO letter-words. "Cat" would be "charlie alpha tango". Pretty cool.

That could be a very useful feature. Lots of times when I'm using my linux computer and a hardware synth (doubletalk LE), I have to backup several times to try to find out if a letter is a b or a v. B and v are the worse but d and t are also bad.

Macintoshly yours,
John Heim

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lavendar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Finally, it's working


Harry,

Your best bet to "get up to steam" is to use the mac for whatever you can.

Caitlyn

Men...coffee..chocolate-some things are simpley better rich
----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "discuss mac" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: Finally, it's working


After purchasing a wireless router, and spending many hours of trying to figure out how to get the Mac connected to the internet, it is now up and working properly, I hope. When I purchased the Mac Book pro, I wish the salesman would have told me that I needed to have a wireless router installed in my household in order for the Mac to work properly. Well, my son-in-law spent lots of his time and effort in installing the wireless routher from linksys. His first two hour try failed at a proper installation. So last night he came over and with the help of the Bell South telephone operators another two hour or maybe a two and a half hour effort paid off. When I learn how to get around in the Mac using Voice Over, I will start posting here using the Mac. Until that time I will continue to post with my PC. I remember when the Mac was first switched on the VO came up saying it would assist me with getting my Mac up and running. I think that must have been a joke. The laptop has small keys, and I am heavy handed, so I ordered a Mac keyboard, which is to arrive here soon. I am eager to get this Mac experience on the road. Any suggestions and recommendations on how to get up to steam would be greatly appreciated.






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