Regardless of what Apple does, John, you are simply someone
who will always harp on the negative and that's fine. It takes all
kinds of folks in this world. You are assuming that Apple will not
fix bugs in Leopard? Do you know they won't? You don't know that as
much as I don't know if they will. Do you have knowledge as to what
is a priority for Apple in what is not? You seem to want to believe
that Apple does not have accessibility as a major concern because of
iTunes and bugs. I don't think you'll find many people who are
pleased by the things that don't work and the time it's taking for
things to get fixed. Nevertheless, this reflects as much on Apple's
stance towards accessibility as anything else. Everyone has special
interests and wants their issues to be a priority for a company. I
find it highly unlikely that the blind are the only group who would
like to see bugs fixed, features added and the like.
With that said, yes, as someone else has already pointed out,
Steve Jobs making VoiceOver a part of his keynote address is
certainly a major demonstration of Apple's commitment to
accessibility. If this isn't good enough for you and you don't find
confidence in this, Vista is always your alternative and Microsoft's
accessibility features. This doesn't even touch on the fact that all
of the other mainstream MP3 players lack accessibility and have
required projects like, Rockbox, to add that accessibility to them.
And, John, do you know what Apple will do with the iPod in the
future"? I don't, but I'd be willing to bet that that product will
become accessible in time as well. I just am not going to sit here
and constantly focus and complain about what I can't do. I'd rather
help facilitate change in a positive, affective manner, remind the
good folks at Apple of the things that need to be addressed and reap
the rewards of patience in the end. To each his own, however. If
you prefer to take your consistently negative view, that is your
right to free speech and freedom of expression. I choose not to.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
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On Sep 16, 2006, at 8:11 AM, John Denning wrote:
You may be nullified just because Steve Jobs gets up and mentions
Universal Access at WWDC. That's great I was thrilled to see that.
But the next OS is all about new features, what NEW is coming. If
apple were committed to Accessibility they would fix BUGS, major
BUGS. Put the new features in the next version, but bug fixes come
ASAP. As they do for every other app.
We talk about iTunes, but then there is the iPod itself, no not a
Mac, but a Key player in apple's product line. Why the heck isn't
that accessible yet? Just wait for the next one, maybe with an
interface we don't even have to touch, because we move our hand
over it, that will be even less accessible.
iTunes is a great gauge because it is such a highly developed and
flagship program. Apple devotes a great deal of resources to it.
There have been several iterations of it since VO was released.
First everyone here said, "well we can't expect anything so fast
this is just the first, second, third release since VO.
You say, you have faith. Well faith without works is dead.
On Sep 15, 2006, at 11:26 PM, JOHN PANARESE wrote:
I think that the commitment by Apple to accessibility firmly
shown by Steve Jobs, regardless of what some folks on this list
want to deny or ignore, is our best indication that iTunes will
be made accessible. Remember, folks, only 10 features of Leopard
were shown or talked about at WWDC. Don't assume about what you
Think won't be fixed or even what will. It's like anything else,
unfortunately. We'll just have to wait, continue to make our
dissatisfaction known to the accessibility team and keep the
faith. If you want to believe there is no commitment from Apple,
that's your call, but I feel otherwise. Anyone who knows me off
this list knows that I'm one of the most cynical, doubting
Thomas's in the world, yet, from what I've observed and heard,
iTunes included, Apple will respond to the question of
accessibility in the end.
- JD -
John Denning
AIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A+ MCSA MCSE
And glad to be a Mac snob again!
Roswell, GA
