Dude, relax, let the man write. why is it that the world in your eyes must exist with no difference of your opinion. the man has an opinion, a stupid opinion at that but its an opinion none the less. hell! I even have opinions that piss all of you off, but its what I am thinking and I should be able to put in my imput. so stop wining! Gabe Vega The BlindTechs Network Website: http://blindtechs.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (602) 476-2307 (562) 261-5277 (866) 714-4244 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:33 AM Subject: Where is this to be put?
> Hi all, > > The message below is insulting and full of innaccuracies but worst of > all, it is not even close to being ontopic for the list. I see > nothing of value in it for the list. > > What am I missing? Please don't answer on list and if you don't have > facts which pertain to our positive growth and development, please > don't answer at all? > > I was not going to respond to this message at all, but having been > here as long as the list has, I just have to note that I see nothing > reflective of anyone on this list in the message below and frankly > would rather see information of value and truth here. > > On Sep 22, 2006, at 12:19 AM, Abdul Kamara wrote: > > Hello Mr. Morales, > > I thank you very much for the 37 cents, though I hope you won't mind > if I > "buck up" with 63 more... > > You did not come out and say it, but I, much as you, am surprised at the > number of blind apologists of Apple on this board. > > Apple had a lot of time to make its signature applications accessible > with > voiceover. Yet still, there has been little progress toward this end. > It's been said by some on this board that Apple's priority and focus has > been toward "productivity applications", and that it's ok for > programs such > as iTunes to remain in the sidelines. As much as I am to respect the > view > points of others, it is asinine for anyone to presume arbitration over > "productivity". Not everyone buys a computer for solely word- > processing. > > There are some who are pacified by the words of Apple ."Oh don't worry, > daddy Apple will make everything betta for you blind folk". And they > buy it > hook, line and sinker. They believe it so much that they will chastise > anyone for having a healthy skepticism therein. > > Accessibility has NEVER been a sexy issue for any mainstream software > company of note. Despite, Jobs' presentation to the contrary, the track > record suggests that voiceover development is ancillary to everything > that > Apple is doing. This needs to change, and it can't happen if some blind > users continue to make excuses for them. > > I have no biases toward either platform. But the current state of > Apple's > Initiative on Accessibility is not enough to warrant my total > commitment to > the Mac. Bottom line: I have way too much to do, than to sit down > like a > whimpering stray dog, begging for Apple to throw me a freakin'' > bone. In > the interim, I will use Excel on Windows. > > One final point. I agree with the assertion that blind users are a > "special > interest". But where I disagree is with the notion that we are a > special > interest of equal consideration. We don't need equality. Rather, we > should > have equitability. Voiceover is not an application of choice. In as > far as > blind users are concerned, it is fundamental to the usage of the > operating > system. Therefore, accessibility should be a central consideration > in all > of Apple's software development. Simple deductive reason shows that > it is > not. I don't think that Steve Jobs' mention of Voiceover served > anything > but to make Apple look good. What I'm more concerned about is if they > follow through with what they say. > > > >
