Yes we have gotten side tracked with the discussion of phones in general.

I put it to you why I and others will want to use the iPhone, and why I like my iPod. One the iPhone is SUPER COOL. It really looks sexier than any button laden phone I have ever seen. It's right off of Start Trek TNG. It is the only phone I've sen that when you are using it for surfing the web it is totally a browser, not a tiny window of a browser on a phone. it looks like using the Mac, not a phone. I love the looks. And can't wait until I can try it out.

Our discussion here needs to focus on accessibility of apple products in general. Most Mac users are fans of many apple products, not just the Mac. I think in months and years to come that is going to be even more true.

I was ridiculed here in the past for saying I am concerned at apple's lack of followup on Accessibility. I was assured that people here KNOW there is this huge commitment by apple. I don't want to get into a flame war, that isn't productive. I know some feel it's not productive pointing out concerns. But frankly I am concerned. Yes I will still wait anxiously for Leopard. And I hope the dreams that have been expressed here are true. But I don't think it's a good idea to sit too quietly by waiting for some minor consideration.

New innovative products are being released and no sign of their usefulness to blind individuals.

I am not advocating a hate campaign. I never was. But we do need to be recognized as a valid market segment.

Have any of you VO users asked yourself what you would do , or how would you feel if Leopard is released and the only new feature in VO is the new voice and no improvements anywhere else?

On Jan 11, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:

And, for the record, I think this discussion has gotten a bit side- tracked.


On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:43 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

There's a perfectly accessible phone that has a deal with TMobile. You can also as withh cingular get your own phone and put either talks or msp on it.

    - JD -
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