I think expressing concerns and shaking the proverbial tree is
certainly a necessary thing. We don't want Apple or any other company
to "forget" or become complacent about any commitment to the
disability and accessibility issues. I have heard the same things
Greg mentioned in an earlier post. The thing is, how many ways can
you reiterate the same points? Realistically, the answers won't come
until Leopard or the iPod or the next full version of iTunes comes
out. We have certainly been heard loud and clear. Now, it comes down
to seeing if the steps will be taken to address the issues. I simply
don't think it benefits the list or anyone else to continually rehash
and beat the topics and debates already fully aired out. I enjoy all
the talk about just what the might be and I find the information
about cell phone companies quite educational. If you want to expand
the discussion to general accessibility, you are then basically
covering a lot of ground we've already walked here.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Managing Director
Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
9 Nolan Court
Hauppauge, NY 11788
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On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:34 PM, John Denning wrote:
Yes we have gotten side tracked with the discussion of phones in
general.
I put it to you why I and others will want to use the iPhone, and
why I like my iPod. One the iPhone is SUPER COOL. It really looks
sexier than any button laden phone I have ever seen. It's right off
of Start Trek TNG. It is the only phone I've sen that when you are
using it for surfing the web it is totally a browser, not a tiny
window of a browser on a phone. it looks like using the Mac, not a
phone. I love the looks. And can't wait until I can try it out.
Our discussion here needs to focus on accessibility of apple
products in general. Most Mac users are fans of many apple products,
not just the Mac. I think in months and years to come that is going
to be even more true.
I was ridiculed here in the past for saying I am concerned at
apple's lack of followup on Accessibility. I was assured that people
here KNOW there is this huge commitment by apple. I don't want to
get into a flame war, that isn't productive. I know some feel it's
not productive pointing out concerns. But frankly I am concerned.
Yes I will still wait anxiously for Leopard. And I hope the dreams
that have been expressed here are true. But I don't think it's a
good idea to sit too quietly by waiting for some minor consideration.
New innovative products are being released and no sign of their
usefulness to blind individuals.
I am not advocating a hate campaign. I never was. But we do need to
be recognized as a valid market segment.
Have any of you VO users asked yourself what you would do , or how
would you feel if Leopard is released and the only new feature in VO
is the new voice and no improvements anywhere else?
On Jan 11, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
And, for the record, I think this discussion has gotten a bit side-
tracked.
On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:43 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
There's a perfectly accessible phone that has a deal with
TMobile. You can also as withh cingular get your own phone and
put either talks or msp on it.
- JD -
John Denning
AIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A+ MCSA MCSE
And glad to be a Mac snob again!
Roswell, GA
