A related question: can you use MS-Word, Blackboard, etc on Macs with Fusion or
Parallels plus your favorite windows screen reader?  I know some people on this
list have investigated virtual solutions, but I'm still not sure exactly to what
extent windows can be used in this environment.

* Can one switch back and forth from Osx to windows easily?
* Does windows and windows screen reader work as expected?
* Does Word, Excel, and other office apps work this way?
* Does IE and/or Firefox work?
If yes to all of these, then I'd say that using a Mac for day-to-day college
work might be possible, although getting a VM configured might be difficult for
a non-computer geek type.

Seems like it would help the Mac accessibility cause in general if state
agencies would help fund Mac purchases.  However, depending on a third party VM
solution (which I'm sure isn't cheap if one were to buy the full product and not
rely on the availability of a beta) doesn't seem like an option funders would
embrace.

Other opinions please.
-- Rich

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Panarese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Macs and a Viable Alternative for State Agencies to Consider


> I believe the MS Word question is a no.  I don't know about the other
> apps, however.  Remember that there are word processor programs that
> can import and export into Word.  Also, it's always possible that
> there are alternatives to the other programs.  Still, your overall
> point is quite true, and other applications in specific environments
> can be added to your list.
>
> Take Care
>
> John D. Panarese
> Managing Director
> Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
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>
> On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Harry/ Linda Bates wrote:
>
> > Does the mac work well with such applications as MS Word, Quick
> > Book pro, and blackboard just to mention a few well used programs
> > at colleges and universities?  In other words is VoiceOver adept at
> > using these programs, whereas I know the JAWS screen reader is.  If
> > so, this would be a real selling point for the mac.  If not, then
> > it still has limitations, which will still require a windows
> > screenreader and operating system for the beginning and advanced
> > students.  I would really like to know the answers to these question.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
> > OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: Macs and a Viable Alternative for State Agencies to
> > Consider
> >
> >
> >> It's interesting because as much as I readily admit I criticize
> >> Microsoft, my background has primarily been Windows.  I have been
> >> around Macs for a good twenty plus years, but I didn't actually
> >> use a  Mac until VoiceOver.  I never got the chance to try
> >> Outspoken and  could never get my state counsellor to approve it.
> >> Thus, my Windows  knowledge and skills are at the point in which I
> >> have and still train  people, and I still utilize it for smaller
> >> things at this point.  I,  too, look forward to the day in which I
> >> am Windows free in my  personal life.  However, from the
> >> perspective of my business, I will  continue to use Windows and I
> >> surely would never desire MS to go  away.  Competition, folks, is
> >> always a great thing and important  motivator.  Microsoft has
> >> finally gotten it's lesson in recent years.
> >>
> >> Take Care
> >>
> >> John D. Panarese
> >> Managing Director
> >> Technologies for the Visually Impaired, Inc.
> >> 9 Nolan Court
> >> Hauppauge, NY 11788
> >> Tel/Fax, (631) 724-4479
> >> Email, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Internet, http://www.tvi-web.com
> >>
> >> AUTHORIZED DISTRIBUTORS FOR PORTSET SYSTEMS LTD, COMPSOLUTIONS VA,
> >> PREMIER ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES, INDEX, PAPENMEIER, REPRO-TRONICS,
> >> DUXBURY, SEROTEK AND OTHER PRODUCTS FOR THE BLIND AND VISUALLY
> >> IMPAIRED
> >>
> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE BUSINESS AGENT
> >> MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 19, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Richard Gardenhire wrote:
> >>
> >>> I use Windows (albeit rarely these days) for games and certain
> >>> chat clients, as well as to listen to Freedombox audio content.
> >>> That,  having been said, I look forward to the day when I can use
> >>> the Mac,  solely for my business, as well as, recreational
> >>> activities.  That  day, I believe, is getting closer.  I was
> >>> always taught, from the  time I left Kansas, in 1970, till now,
> >>> that I have to assess my  needs and weigh them according to
> >>> what's going to help me tap into  the marketshare for my work,
> >>> regardless of what I do.  The Apple  2GS was the first computer I
> >>> learned to use, in the 1980's, and I'm  glad I came back to the
> >>> operating system I love.  However, I'm  thankful for what litttle
> >>> knowledge of Windows I do have, and am  able to maintain.  As
> >>> they say in Kansas, "It ain't much, but it  gets me to where I
> >>> want to go."  And to coin an old company phrase,  used by AT&T,
> >>> years ago, "We may be the only phone company in town,  but we try
> >>> not to act like it."  Sure, I would love to get as many blind
> >>> people on the "good foot," and join the Mac Revolution, but a
> >>> reality check tells me there's a long way before we get to that
> >>> point, and there's room at the proverbial table for everybody,
> >>> regardless of their need.  Using both my Mac machines, I feel
> >>> quite  comfortable, but sometimes I am willing to "step out of my
> >>> comfort  zone" if I have to, which I find rare, these days.
> >>> Richie  Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
> >>>
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> >
> >
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