Hi Dane,

Yeah it seems odd to me. After all, if Tex is all its cracked up to be wich it is in it's proper circle, why have screen reader folks spent all this blody time getting office and other things doable? Why not have everyone learn tex? After all, this guy who is working for the government, surely they they should train him on using it then?

On 20 Sep 2007, at 05:20, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Ok, well my only further comment is to go and try these things, I've made my points as have others, see what you think but again I will state as others have that it sees odd to me at least that you have to "learn" how to use a word processor, formatting or no formatting, reports or no reports etc. I'm curious to know exactly what you would do that anyone else wouldn't, that is to say what you would do that any good word processor wouldn't handle.

On 20/09/2007, at 8:52 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

Fine for you unfortunately for me. I use every aspect of Windows imaginable for government reports and contracts and they have to be perfect. I spend the majority of my time formatting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Jolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
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Well, using TEX for it's intended purpose laying out formulas is ideal. I still don't see the point in using it to write standard texts though. Any good word processer will do the job ust as well to be honest. It's up to yourselves though if you want to jump through a thousand hoops to write anything I am happy with word or whatever for standard work.

On 19 Sep 2007, at 21:56, James Austin wrote:

Wow! I have looked at that side of it, and I'm pleased I don't study maths
On 19 Sep 2007, at 19:59, James Jolley wrote:

It's not that steep I use it all the time for mathematics
On 19 Sep 2007, at 18:18, Greg Kearney wrote:

That's right the learning curve is steep with TeX, the rewards are well worth it however.

Greg
On Sep 19, 2007, at 11:05 AM, James Austin wrote:

It is free, but please get in touch if you've not used it before, it is not simply a case of typing as with a word processor
On 19 Sep 2007, at 17:23, VaShaun Jones wrote:

I think I will be getting Latex . Is it totally accessible and how much does it cost? ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Austin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: MS Word alternative


Hi,

Okay, well there is IText Express, a small free word processing application, similar to Text Edit, which provides the ability to add footnotes. There is also Nisus Writer Express, or Nisus Writer Pro, you can find these at

www.nisus.com

Neither Express or Pro are currently 100% usable with VO, but very nearly. If you were thinking of purchasing Nisus Writer, I would recommend the Pro version, as that seems more accessible.

There is also Latex (pronouned Laytech), which is a type- setin tool. It is extremely powerful and versitle, but does require time to learn. Although, the benefits are rewarding, especially for Blind users in my personal opinion, as I use it exclusively for my University assignments. I don't want to clutter the list with discussions about Latex, so please feel free to E Mail me off list, if you'd like to know more.

Hope this helps

James
On 19 Sep 2007, at 08:55, VaShaun Jones wrote:

Listers somewhere before I got familiar with my Mac their was a discussion about a professional word processor. I wanted to know what it was and how can I get it? Note: one of its liked features is that you don't have to worry about formatting (a lister reported).




















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