Hello all

I have installed leopard and have been overwhelmed with a variety of mixed feelings about it. It is like, some things are easier and other things that were easy and doable in tiger, are not in leopard.

I like how it reads deleted characters and words. I like the dom navigation though it is a bit sluggish. I think it is good that the widgets are a bit more accessible. More than anything, I am impressed at how responsive the braille displays are and at such little effort on the part of the user. But there are things that are annoying.

When used to read my discuss digests in my email application, navigating with just my keyboard cursor, and the find forward and back commands, now I have to copy and paste the digests into textedit because vo does not handle plaintext n the same way that it used to. Spaces, while accessible to set up, is completely useless for someone using the keyboard. Here's why. You move from space to space with ctrl arrows which is wonderful, but when you move to a new space, open, say, safari, then go to another space and open textedit, you can still command tab between each of them. It does not separate the apps in th the space that is not being focused on.

Where's sherlock? I used to use that app a lot for finding movies, translating, and reading rss feeds. It made things very easy and practical but now it is not here.

I don't know about you guys, but I can't stand the entonation. Anyone tried fred lately? He is speaking with accessive entonation to the point of sluring his words. Alex is ok, because they obviously focused on him more than fred. But he still does not read near as fast as fred. It is great for people who don't listen to speech very fast, who don't really have to skim a long text, but otherwise, not so good.

In groups mode, the cursor still will go out of the html content on some pages, most notably when you go and read articles on sfgate. We used to be able to solve this by hiding the bookmarks and the tool bar, and by pressing refresh a couple times. Now, the zoom, close, and zoom buttons make this impossible. Apart from that, they are just a redundant navigation hazard.

Stacks is just not accessible. Forget it. As though we don't want to use that. Personally, I would have liked to be able to access my files from the dock, make things more efficient not having to tab over to the finder to access something. Just saying because you'd think that new additions like this would be properly written.

What happened to the bilingual support? And the ability to customize the way VO reads elements?

All in all, I have mixed feelings. Some of these things I simply can't believe would be overlooked during the testing process. Unless they simply were ignored for whatever reason by the developers.

I noticed on the webpage, that it compares VO to jaws and "windowseyes". I definitely get the impression that they have been so busy trying to lure the windows users into os x, that they have let some of the old things like groups mode, things that made voiceover 1.0 unique, slip.

Regards
Justin Harford

PS
I like the spotlight dictionary and calculator capabilities. I don't liek the fact that fred can't read capabilities.

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