Hi Shaun,

I have gotten rid of the splitter, so now my message table is just a long list of messages. Unfortunately, I've forgotten how I did this, but I'm sure others on the list will be able to help.

Hope this helps

James
On 2 Nov 2007, at 04:00, VaShaun Jones wrote:

Are you using Leopard Mail? I hear interact with message table, then I press VO J and get a bong. I stop interacting with the table and hear stop interacting with message table and press VO J and again nothing happens but the bong. I press enter on the message and it speaks, then I press VO J and get the bong again. I have to either delete the message or close the Window in order to get the response you are getting. On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:happens Try interacting with your message table. find a message you want to read, using your up / down arrow keys. Once you're on the message, press VO J. You should then immediately be taken to the msg body and it should begin reading. When you've heard enough, simply press VO J again and you should then be returned to the msg table where you were...

HTH

Smiles,

C-Quinn  :)


On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:29 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

What is VO J supposed to do? I have tried this key combination in every instance of mail and all I get is the bong sound each time. I can interact, not interact, be in a message or not and this key combination doesn't work anywhere. I think my computer is broke.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:14 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

I have to concur with cara here. It takes a bit of getting used to and I do things a bit differently in that I tab instead of vo j, but it is fast.


On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:

Andrew, I personally interact with the message table, use VO right / left arrows to navigate to the subject or sender column, and then simply use standard up / down arrows to quickly scroll through the message list. To read a particular note, I use VO j and then VO j back out of it to get back to where I was in the message list... Does this make sense?...

I can go very quickly through lots of email this way. If I want to delete a message, I use the delete key in the message list and not in the message body itself. I've found that using the del key in the message body causes the message list to lose focus, so that I need to interact with it again, whereas if I VO j out of the message after I've read it, I'm still focused in the message list...

HTH

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Nov 1, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:

Hi,

Ok.  What about the message list - this is more annoying than the
reading issue, as it takes ages before the message subject is read out
in the list.

Andrew.

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you need to interact with the message to read it unless you want to
either press enter, vo-j or tab to read it.

On Nov 1, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:

Hi,



I upgraded to Leopard yesterday, I like the new voice.



I have though an annoying feature in Mail, in that when you are
arrowing
through the list of messages, it is reading various status indicators, and I just want the message subject (and possibly date) read out. I managed to get rid of some of the information by removing some of the columns from the view, but has anyone got any tips on getting this
back
as it was before?



The other thing in Mail is that reading via the cursor is irratic - it works quite a bit of the time, but for no reason, sometimes the system reads out the complete message, and the arrow keys have no effect.



Did clean reinstall - copied all user settings to external storage
first.



Thanks.

Andrew.



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