I can do everything but the VO J thing. The way you described in your
message is how I learned on Tiger and I did not know about the VO J
Any thoughts on why this wouldn't work for me? Is there a setting or a
view I need to have set?
On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:39 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
here are two ways to do this, find the messages with tab, arrow up
and down through the list till you find the message you seek, tab
and listen, shift tab and either delete or go on.
Press enter on a message and listen, close and or delete and move on.
Press vo j to read the message, press vo j to go back to the list
and either delete or move on. No interacting needed unless you want
to position yourself on a column heading such as subject or sender.
In this case, interact with the message table, vo left/right to the
column heading you want to hear, stop interacting with the messages
table, press vo j to read a message after up or down arrowing to it
and vo j to get back to the list.
On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:00 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Are you using Leopard Mail? I hear interact with message table,
then I press VO J and get a bong. I stop interacting with the table
and hear stop interacting with message table and press VO J and
again nothing happens but the bong. I press enter on the message
and it speaks, then I press VO J and get the bong again. I have to
either delete the message or close the Window in order to get the
response you are getting.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:47 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:happens Try
interacting with your message table. find a message you want to
read, using your up / down arrow keys. Once you're on the message,
press VO J. You should then immediately be taken to the msg body
and it should begin reading. When you've heard enough, simply
press VO J again and you should then be returned to the msg table
where you were...
HTH
Smiles,
C-Quinn :)
On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:29 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
What is VO J supposed to do? I have tried this key combination in
every instance of mail and all I get is the bong sound each time.
I can interact, not interact, be in a message or not and this key
combination doesn't work anywhere. I think my computer is broke.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:14 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
I have to concur with cara here. It takes a bit of getting used
to and I do things a bit differently in that I tab instead of vo
j, but it is fast.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Andrew, I personally interact with the message table, use VO
right / left arrows to navigate to the subject or sender
column, and then simply use standard up / down arrows to
quickly scroll through the message list. To read a particular
note, I use VO j and then VO j back out of it to get back to
where I was in the message list... Does this make sense?...
I can go very quickly through lots of email this way. If I
want to delete a message, I use the delete key in the message
list and not in the message body itself. I've found that using
the del key in the message body causes the message list to lose
focus, so that I need to interact with it again, whereas if I
VO j out of the message after I've read it, I'm still focused
in the message list...
HTH
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Nov 1, 2007, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
Hi,
Ok. What about the message list - this is more annoying than
the
reading issue, as it takes ages before the message subject is
read out
in the list.
Andrew.
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you need to interact with the message to read it unless you
want to
either press enter, vo-j or tab to read it.
On Nov 1, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
Hi,
I upgraded to Leopard yesterday, I like the new voice.
I have though an annoying feature in Mail, in that when you are
arrowing
through the list of messages, it is reading various status
indicators,
and I just want the message subject (and possibly date) read
out. I
managed to get rid of some of the information by removing
some of the
columns from the view, but has anyone got any tips on getting
this
back
as it was before?
The other thing in Mail is that reading via the cursor is
irratic - it
works quite a bit of the time, but for no reason, sometimes
the system
reads out the complete message, and the arrow keys have no
effect.
Did clean reinstall - copied all user settings to external
storage
first.
Thanks.
Andrew.
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