I didn't need a lot of sighted assistance, narrator will do a lot of it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "hank smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby 
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: my fusion experiences:


you just need sighted assistance installing windows
a auto unattended installation will not work under boot camp period
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: my fusion experiences:


> sure tim.  bootcamp is esier to get along with too.
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> On Nov 25, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Tim Grady wrote:
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> Good.  It's a good thing I don't have any heavy tasks.
> On Nov 25, 2007, at 8:53 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
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>> if you want to dedicate your full cpu resources to windows for heavy
>> tasks,
>> you would install bootcamp and dual boot so that when you are in  window,
>> it's all windows.
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS  X
>> by
>> theblind" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: my fusion experiences:
>>
>>
>> Thanks.  That's what I thought.  Now, can you tell me what the
>> advantage of installing bootcamp is?
>> On Nov 24, 2007, at 4:57 AM, Jane Lee wrote:
>>
>>> Heyas!
>>> A virtual appliance is just a fancy term for a pre installed and
>>> configured virtual machine, so if you purchased a Windows virtual
>>> appliance, it would be a pre-installed Windows.  Some virtual
>>> appliances are free, some aren't, and they all are for different
>>> purposes.  One I use is called JumpBox and it's a preinstalled OS  with
>>> Trac, a project management webapp.  Saves me the time of having to
>>> install and set things up.
>>>
>>> You definitely need a full copy of Windows to install in fusion.
>>>
>>> Lastly, I'm not completely sure, but I vaguely remember there being
>>> unattended setup for one or both of the hypervisors for OS X where  you
>>> can just enter in a serial before installing the OS and it'll deal
>>> with it for you.  If not, there's ways to modify the install disk to
>>> make it unattended.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> jane
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2007 5:43 AM, David Poehlman
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> I don't know what a virtual appliance is but it looks like you have
>>>> to buy
>>>> them.  You deffinitely need a full copy of windows but it supports
>>>> anything
>>>> from at least .98 up and maybe even .95.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
>>>> OS X by
>>>> theblind" <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:49 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: my fusion experiences:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would I be right to assume that you need a full copy of Windows.  It
>>>> looks that way from reading the manual, but then what is a virtual
>>>> appliance and does it get installed under Windows?
>>>> On Nov 22, 2007, at 12:01 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess it depends on your work style, in the beginning, I wanted  to
>>>>> be able to use windows and Mac os without having to carry two
>>>>> computers around so bootcamp was the perfect solution.  It's easy
>>>>> enough to restart the system in either and the advantage of  having a
>>>>> fully running os are that everything works in windows which is not
>>>>> or was not the case for me with fusion which pains me a bit due to
>>>>> this project and I suspect I'll get more of them.  I am going to do
>>>>> some studying though because I found out some things today about  the
>>>>> vmware tools that may allow me to over come the problems at least  on
>>>>> the Imac.  I found for instance that you can actually run vmware
>>>>> tools from within windows instead of from the mac side which hides
>>>>> the actions from us so I am going to give that a whirl but not any
>>>>> time soon as I have spent a lot of hours recovering my systems from
>>>>> this little experiment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 21, 2007, at 9:02 PM, Tim Grady wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know much about fusion so I am just asking, you can use a
>>>>> virtual disk so what is the advantage of a windows partition?
>>>>> On Nov 21, 2007, at 7:04 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had been using bootcamp because I knew it would work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
>>>>>> OS X by
>>>>>> theblind" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:20 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: my fusion experiences:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why did you decide to install bootcamp?
>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2007, at 6:58 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought some might find interesting the experiences I've
>>>>>>> gained by
>>>>>>> installing and attempting to use fusion on my imac and  macbook.  I
>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>> after going through this that fusion and most likely paralells is
>>>>>>> not for
>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I first installed it on my Macbook using bootcamp as the virtual
>>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>> After a lot of trial and error, I realized that I was not going  to
>>>>>>> get jaws
>>>>>>> activated nor was I going to settle the video intercept issue.  I
>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>> day though that I was favorably impressed with the ease of use  and
>>>>>>> accessibility of the vmware interface considering the complexity
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the job
>>>>>>> it has to do .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I then proceeded to install it on my Imac this is a core2 duo
>>>>>>> 2.16ghz system
>>>>>>> with 3gb of ram and an 500gb hd.  Again, I was impressed with the
>>>>>>> interface
>>>>>>> and also on both the speed of the final product although I didn't
>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>> any heavy tasks.  I was not impressed though by the number of
>>>>>>> drivers I had
>>>>>>> to reinstall and that I had to reinstall them each time I shut
>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> restarted the vm.  I guess without jaws in the mix, and a bit of
>>>>>>> tinkering,
>>>>>>> this could be a good solution.  I only tried it ow because I
>>>>>>> needed
>>>>>>> a more
>>>>>>> efficient environment in which to work, but I'll settle for two
>>>>>>> computers
>>>>>>> one for the windows side of the project and the other for the Mac
>>>>>>> side of
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lastly, be warened, you will find your self having to reactivate
>>>>>>> windows if
>>>>>>> you use fusion after installing windows through bootcamp and if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>> you want to just boot into windows directly, another activation
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> then if
>>>>>>> you want to use fusion again, another activation...
>>>>>>>
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