which recommended tweaks did you implement?

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From: "Justin Harford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: discovery, why some programs lose focus


Hello

I was looking at this thread and wondering what you guys were talking  
about when I suddenly had the same problem while reading a wikipedia  
article.  Incidently, it happened after I implemented the recommended  
tweaks.

I notice that when this happens, voiceover makes a sound like it is  
being re-focused.  I also notice that the cursor usually gets routed  
to a link on a webpage.  I have not noticed any of this problem  
outside of HTML.  Links are the place where the keyboard cursor will  
go.  Remember that the keyboard cursor does not move over text, such  
as the main text of a wiki document nor does it move over groups as in  
when you are in groups mode and reading the chunks of text and links  
intertwined as is the common style of wikipedia articles.  I think  
that this is a cursor tracking issue.

I have a problem where I am reading a pdf or html document, and I cmd  
tab out of that window to do something else, cmd tab back into it and  
find that I have lost my place.  The cursor usually wants to go to the  
top of a pdf document, or at least the current page; I don't use  
continuous viewing for this reason. among others.  I noticed something  
interesting when I was messing around with it a couple minutes ago.   
If I turn off cursor tracking vo shift f3 before cmd tabing back into  
an html article, the cursor does not jump, and I can resume from where  
I left off.  As soon as I neglect to turn off cursor tracking, focus  
moves to the top of the article.  Then I tried something else.  Under  
the navigation pain in vo prefs, find the pop-up-box that is usually  
set to have the vo cursor start on the keyboard focused item in a  
window.  Change that to make it start at the top of the window "first  
item in window".  I found that even with cursor tracking on,this helps  
to maintain focus of the vo cursor.

I have not done much with this thus far, so I think others should try  
this and see what they can find so we can get a better idea of the bug  
before reporting it.

Justin Harford

Where I come from, we believe all sorts of things that aren't true; we  
call it history.
Wicked




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