I went to check if Spaes was on after Greg sent the email and it wasn't so I'm unsure why the keys were working. In any event, I went a step further and resolved the problem. Just turn spaces on and then go down further in the preferences for Spaces and change the key shortcuts to move between one space and another. You have a pull down with tons of choices. Once I changed this nothing happens if I hit these keys and all is good!

On Nov 25, 2007, at 3:29 PM, David Poehlman wrote:

which recommended tweaks did you implement?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Harford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: discovery, why some programs lose focus


Hello

I was looking at this thread and wondering what you guys were talking
about when I suddenly had the same problem while reading a wikipedia
article.  Incidently, it happened after I implemented the recommended
tweaks.

I notice that when this happens, voiceover makes a sound like it is
being re-focused.  I also notice that the cursor usually gets routed
to a link on a webpage.  I have not noticed any of this problem
outside of HTML.  Links are the place where the keyboard cursor will
go.  Remember that the keyboard cursor does not move over text, such
as the main text of a wiki document nor does it move over groups as in
when you are in groups mode and reading the chunks of text and links
intertwined as is the common style of wikipedia articles.  I think
that this is a cursor tracking issue.

I have a problem where I am reading a pdf or html document, and I cmd
tab out of that window to do something else, cmd tab back into it and
find that I have lost my place.  The cursor usually wants to go to the
top of a pdf document, or at least the current page; I don't use
continuous viewing for this reason. among others.  I noticed something
interesting when I was messing around with it a couple minutes ago.
If I turn off cursor tracking vo shift f3 before cmd tabing back into
an html article, the cursor does not jump, and I can resume from where
I left off.  As soon as I neglect to turn off cursor tracking, focus
moves to the top of the article.  Then I tried something else.  Under
the navigation pain in vo prefs, find the pop-up-box that is usually
set to have the vo cursor start on the keyboard focused item in a
window.  Change that to make it start at the top of the window "first
item in window".  I found that even with cursor tracking on,this helps
to maintain focus of the vo cursor.

I have not done much with this thus far, so I think others should try
this and see what they can find so we can get a better idea of the bug
before reporting it.

Justin Harford

Where I come from, we believe all sorts of things that aren't true; we
call it history.
Wicked






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