Hi Esther,
I was going to reply when I noticed something. I had only scrolled down through the first 30 or so folders in the itunes music folder, and they were as I had described, but further down the list, I found albums that were still organized correctly. I looked at the info dialog in itunes for songs that were organized correctly and for songs that weren't. It looks as though itunes did exactly what it should have done. On a number of albums, the meta data for "name" and "artist" have been switched around which explains the problem. Now the question becomes "how did the data get switched?" I re- imported one of the affected CDs, and the info shows up correctly for the songs. I will have to try some more CDs, but it would appear that I somehow managed to change something. I can't think of how it would have happened, but it seems to have affected the albums which I imported when I first got my Mac. I tried messing with itunes a lot when it was still pretty unaccessible and must have unwittingly done something wrong. Any ideas as to how to switch columns of data for an album? Thanks and sorry for sending people on a wild goose hunt.
Greg

On Dec 2, 2007, at 8:23 AM, Esther wrote:

Hi Greg,

On Dec 02, 2007, at 01:30AM, Greg Williams wrote:
Hi,
I had my itunes music folder all nice and organized into
artist:album:song hierarchy, and itunes put newly imported CDs in
that structure.  Well, somehow the "organize library" preference
became unchecked, and I imported a couple of CDs whose files just got
thrown into my "itunes music" folder.

This sounds bizarre.  A few quick questions: what version of iTunes
are you running and are you using Tiger or Leopard on your Mac?
Is your iTunes Music folder location set to your local hard drive (default
is "Macintosh HD: Users: <username>: Music: iTunes: iTunes Music")
or are you using an external hard drive? If you rip music from CDs, the
new tracks should be organized by Artist: Album: Song -- just as you
wanted -- regardless of your "organize library" preference settings.

To clarify, when you say that you "imported a couple of CDs whose files just got thrown into 'your iTunes Music' folder", were these files that were
already ripped from CD (such as compressed AAC or MP3 files) that you
were adding to your music library, or did you insert an audio CD and
import its contents? I'm going to distinguish "importing" from "adding to library" here to learn how the tagging information got added. When you rip (import) an audio CD, iTunes looks up information on the Artist, Album,
and Song from the CDDB (CD database at gracenote.com) and uses that,
unless you input your own edits with Get Info (Command+I).  When you
add a music file on your hard drive to your iTunes library, iTunes reads the tags in that file to insert the Artist, Album, and Song information into its database. And when the music you imported got "thrown into" your iTunes
Music folder, how was this organized, if at all?

I went investigating why this happened and found the unchecked
organize preference.  I checked, and then began my problems.  When I
quit out of preferences, itunes kindly asked me if I would like my
library organized, and I blithely responded yes.  When I looked at my
itunes music folder in the finder, I found that my music was now
organized in song_folder:album_folder:track_number+artist_file.  This
is not at all what I wanted, but I could not find any obvious way to
undo it in itunes.  The puzzling thing is that when it imports CDs,
it does it in the hierarchy I had expected.  This might be mildly
annoying but amusing except that I often use VLC to play albums
because I can just navigate to the album folder in the open dialog
and play which is easier than itunes.  I have tried to find scripts
online to undo this mess, but I have not had any success thus far.
Does anyone have any suggestions short of deleting all of the music
and re-importing the CDs from scratch?  Thanks.
Greg



I have a few ideas, but await your answers.  One possibility is that
you simply have a corrupted preference list file. I've never been asked
by iTunes whether I "would like my music organized" when I uncheck
and then later check "Keep iTunes Music Folder Organized".  I think
that might happen if you consolidate a library that contains both items in your iTunes Music folder and files that you added that you kept outside the folder (by unchecking the "Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding
to library" before doing an "Add file to Library").

Could you read back the first preference settings on the General tab of the
Advanced dialogue of your iTunes preferences?  (Command+comma to
bring up preferences, Command-6 for the Advanced menu, Item chooser
to select "General, <selected> tab 1 of 3").  These will be
1) Your iTunes music folder location (you can just say default, if you haven't
changed this)
2) "Keep iTunes Music folder organized"  (checked or unchecked?)
3) "Copy files to iTunes Music foder when adding to library" (checked or
unchecked?)

And do you remember what the prefs were when you followed up on the CDs "thrown into" your music folder? That could have been because of poor tagging
in the CDDB.

Cheers,

Esther



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