Darcy,

This cracked it! Dontcha hate it when the answer is that simple? Once I'd deleted the playlist m3u files (I rarely use them anyway) iTunes imported perfectly with no dupes. It also explains why the albums had gone on to the old iPod without a hitch, because I had the software I was using at the time set to ignore playlists.

Thanks so much for the heads up man, I haven't got half as much tidying left to do now.

Scott


----- Original Message ----- From: "Darcy Burnard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes and how it organizes files


Hi Scott.  Are there any m3u playlists in the folders you're
importing?  Like for example in each albums folder, an m3u playlist
with each song in the folder.  I don't know if importing a playlist
would cause this doubling, but it might be worth checking out.
Darcy

On 2-Dec-07, at 6:05 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:

Hi Ester,

Yep, I've checked it out, and these are exact duplicates in terms of filesize bitrate album and most importantly of course the song itself is identical. To take an Incubus album for example, I have 2 of each song listed in the library, and 2 of each actual mp3 in the itunes music folder, the 2nd of each song having a number after it. previously to me importing it, there was only one version of each song in the folder which seemed to transfer to an iPod with no problem.

I'm not sure if i understood you right about the mp3 tags being the problem, because on this album I've removed the ID3V1 tags, so there should only be ID3V2 tags left. Am I barking up the wrong tree here? and if I'm not, anymore ideas to try?

Cheers
Scott


----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: Itunes and how it organizes files


Hi Scott,

It could be the mp3 tag versions that are the problem, because in principle
multiple copies of the same tag information can be written with the  ID3
version formats into these fields, and players might only use/read the
last set. That doesn't mean that having the different bits of  information
written several times in the same header field can't cause you  problems.

There's a command under the iTunes View menu to "Show Duplicates".
It only finds items with the same Song name, so you need to check  whether
these aren't different versions of the same song --- a live concert version
on one album and a studio recorded version on another, or multiple
versions that show up in a collection album, for example.  You can do
that with the summary information page when you Get Info (command-i)
on a selected track and read its file location. I find it easier sometimes
to use Command-R, which will open a finder window with that track
selected.  Then you can check the album/folder you're in.

I'd check that these weren't multiple library entries pointing to the same
track.  If so, you should be safe deleting extra entries, as long as  you
don't delete the actual song file by saying that you also want to move
it to the trash.

One other limitation of the "Show Duplicates" command -- you can't yet
accessibly get back to a view where you show all, to my knowledge,
If I select "Music" in the Source Outline, do VO-keys+M, arrow to the
View Menu, and Down Arrow to "Show Duplicates"  my Songs outline
will be left showing only the duplicates for me to check, but I can't
click the button that returns the view to all Music. I have to quit iTunes
and restart it.

Hope this helps

Esther

On Dec 02, 2007, at 11:40AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
Hey all - I have a related problem that hopefully someone can shed  some
light on.

So, picture the scene. I've just got my MBP, seen accessible iTunes for the first time, accessible frontrow for the first time, and i'm in a state of
pure joy.  At that moment, this machine is just a glorified talking  iPod
with a remote to me haha! I then decide to import a load of albums stored
in an artist/album/track number/song title.mp3 format from my pc  where I
usually use winamp.  For the most part iTunes handles this well and
reorganises the files perfectly where I've deviated from the usual folder
structure, because the ID tags are accurate on all this stuff.

But, here's the issue.  With some albums I'm importing, I'm getting  what
seem to be duplicates of every track, usually in groups of 2 but ocasionally I've seen 3 for each song. This is strange to me, because the same albums had previously gone over to my iPod which relies on ID tags with no issues. My first suspicion was that it would be because ID3V1 and ID3V2 tags were both enabled for the songs, but after using winamp to disable the ID3V1 tags for the affected albums, the problem still occurs. Don't get me wrong I can go and tidy this stuff up manually, but i'd prefer not too, its a fairly big
library and in an ideal world I'd like it obsessively tidy.

Thanks in advance if anybody can help with this...
Scott







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