Hi Lou and Others,

This link to an article on alternative solutions to reinstate hierarchical
menus in the dock for Leopard is quite interesting; since I, too, am
still using Tiger I'd be interested in finding out whether any of the 
(now four) solutions are accessible.

As wonderful as hierarchical menus in the dock are, since you still
have to drag and drop a folder into the dock to use them, this begs
the question of whether there's a good accessible way to drag and
drop.  I read Josh's solution for manually moving content to an iPod
-- another operation that requires drag and drop:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg14237.html
Subject: how to move content on to device in itunes?

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On May 10, 2007, at 9:00 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

While not the most elegant solution, it works quite well after a bit of 
practice. 
Follow these steps and after a few attempts you will be moving stuff. I am able 
to do 
this easily with a MacBok, though it may be more difficult with other varieties 
of Mac.

1. Move to the item you wish to move in the songs list.

2. Use VO+Command+F5 to move the mouse cursor there.

3.  Lock the VO keys with VO+Semi-colon

4. start dragging the item to the left using the trackpad or mouse. Do not lift 
up on 
the mouse button as you do this. While doing this, you can hit the F5 key to 
hear 
where you are on the screen. It helps to have a good idea of the visual layout 
of the 
iTunes screen, as I did before attempting this. The sources list is on the left.

5. Position the mouse over the iPod entry in the sources and release the mouse 
button.

It's not perfect, but I can do it very, very quickly now and have had no 
trouble at all.
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VoiceOver can read the screen coordinates of the source and target destinations.
Surely there must be a programmable solution that allows us to specify what we 
want to move and where we want to put it with the "mouse pressed"?

And to give a quick summary, the hierarchical menus for folders in the dock are
like running through Finder in column mode, but using aliases for the folders
and files, so navigation is really fast (you don't have to open actual folders 
to
navigate down through the subfolders). This also means that since when you 
select a
file this way, it opens in its default application, you could navigate your 
iTunes music
or podcasts this way and immediately start them playing, although using the 
browser
in iTunes is also pretty easy.

On Dec 05, 2007, at 12:54PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello!
>
>There has been much discussion here about the lack of hierarchical  
>menus in the Leopard dock.
>
>I found an article (posted December 5, 2007) on "The Unofficial Apple  
>Weblog" that speaks of 3 free solutions to this matter... Since I do  
>not have Leopard, I cannot tell you how accessible any of these  
>solutions are with VO.
>
>Here is the link to the article:
>http://feeds.tuaw.com/~r/weblogsinc/tuaw/~3/195750954/
>
>I hope this proves helpful to you...
>
>Lou.
>
>
>
>

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