I was going to look at the dot mac subscription around the beginning of the year, but we would all need dot mac accounts. Wouldn't we or are you saying I can talk to anyone on any chat platform with dot mac?
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi Shaun.

You do know that you can sign up for a free 60-day trial .Mac account,
don't you?  You could use that for iChat.  I'm not sure whether the
ability to use iChat even expires after the 60 days, since your user
name is probably still active.  Of course, if you send mail to your
.Mac account you won't be able to read it without subscribing after the
60 day period.

If you're interested, just go to:

http://www.apple.com/dotmac/

and use the links chooser menu (VO-keys+U) to navigate to the
"Free Trial" button. VO-keys+space bar will take you to the
signup page.  I got a dot Mac account through a promotional offer
at my Apple Store, and not through the web page, but it should be
doable if you're interested.

Cheers,

Esther

On Dec 06, 2007, at 05:11PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I will have to get a AIM account. Give me a minute to figure out the
security mechanism that AOL has when this type of account is set up.
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:

Yes, since I don't have a Google account set up, nor have I gotten
MSN working right yet.

Jane


On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:30 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

So do I have to be on AIM to do screen sharing with you?
On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:27 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:

It's an AOL account--taken from when I was in college and
attending ROTC classes. :)

Jane


On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:07 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

I like that screen name  lets set it up. I have MSN and g-mail.
Will either of these work or do I need a dot Mac account?
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Jane Jordan wrote:

Forthat matter, the three of us could get together and chat.

My screenname is BlindCadet.

Jane


On Dec 6, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Darcy Burnard wrote:

Hi Shaun.  Are you on ichat?  I was thinking that automator is
one of those things that would be easier to show rather than
explain.  So if we could do the ichat screen sharing thing some
time, that might be easier.
Darcy

On 5-Dec-07, at 10:35 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

Either Jane or Darcey, can I contact either of you for a
understanding of Automator?
On Dec 5, 2007, at 10:16 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:

Hello Darcy.

I don't know of a range of values.  I e-mailed the
accessibility folks and they sent me a link to a really
complicated reference on controling speech output with
commands embedded in text.  As an example, they gave me the
rate control, but there's lots more that I haven't even begun
to play with.

What I am *really* curious about doing now is, say, editing a
file to have certain characters read with certain voices, for
example, and have a narrator voice.  But that will be a while
coming.  I may just have to write a test file and see how it
works.

I may be able top play more tomorrow--the doctor has told me
she would prefer it if I stayed home to try and get better
from this cold--so I will see if I can come up with more.

But yes, to get back to the original question.   All I did
was put left-bracket left-bracket rate 300 right-bracket
right-bracket at the very top of the document, left it open
in Textedit, and ran the application.  I am trying to figure
out how to get text from email, hav e it delete certain text,
and then run it, but I don't know if that is possible.

To the other person who wanted to ask questions, I can *try*
and help, but I think actually Darcy is a little more
experienced than me; he was the one that explained the very
basics--he deos more with it thatn I am doing at the moment--
though I am working on changing that, at least as far as
creating books goes.  Which makes me wonder---if I put
embedded commands into a text file, and ran it through
books2burn, i wonder how well that owuld work?  I *think* it
would work well.  I am doing the Say one for now, because it
simply seems to be faster.  My one gripe with my automator
action er application so far is that it automatically names
the file audio text.aiff, and places it on the desktop, and
what I want to do is to have it have the same name as thbe
original file, except for audio at the end.  Ideally, I
woul.d have it convert to mp3, but I don't know if that can
be done without me playing it in iTunes.  Can it?

I apologize--the toddler is sleeping, and I am just sitting
down to think and so all this came up.

Jane


On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:

Hi Jane.  This is cool.  So then do you just place the rate
command in the text itself?  Also, you used rate 300 in your
example.  What is the range of values you can put in there?
Darcy

On 5-Dec-07, at 6:15 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:

OK, so I could have done this in Terminal, I guess, but
Terminal was proving to be difficult to get to work right.

I did an automator work flow that takes text from TextEdit
and converts it into an audio file.

If you put left-bracket left-bracket rate 300 right-bracket
right-bracket

you will get Say to read the file at that speed.  I spelled
out the symbols, otherwise Voic eOver would interpret them
as a command and you'd suddenly start having very fast
speech!  Or slow, depending on how you like your Mac to
talk to you.

Anyhow, now I am experimenting with ways tomake it even
more interesting,.  It seems that saving a Workflow as an
Application is the best way to go.

Jane


























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