Hi Shaun,

On Dec 06, 2007, at 06:31PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>I was going to look at the dot mac subscription around the beginning  
>of the year, but we would all need dot mac accounts. Wouldn't we or  
>are you saying I can talk to anyone on any chat platform with dot mac?

Well, iChat work between .Mac  and AOL accounts with no extra
actions.

Cheers,

Esther 

>On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:39 PM, Esther wrote:
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>> Hi Shaun.
>>
>> You do know that you can sign up for a free 60-day trial .Mac account,
>> don't you?  You could use that for iChat.  I'm not sure whether the
>> ability to use iChat even expires after the 60 days, since your user
>> name is probably still active.  Of course, if you send mail to your
>> .Mac account you won't be able to read it without subscribing after  
>> the
>> 60 day period.
>>
>> If you're interested, just go to:
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/dotmac/
>>
>> and use the links chooser menu (VO-keys+U) to navigate to the
>> "Free Trial" button. VO-keys+space bar will take you to the
>> signup page.  I got a dot Mac account through a promotional offer
>> at my Apple Store, and not through the web page, but it should be
>> doable if you're interested.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> On Dec 06, 2007, at 05:11PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>>> I will have to get a AIM account. Give me a minute to figure out the
>>> security mechanism that AOL has when this type of account is set up.
>>> On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, since I don't have a Google account set up, nor have I gotten
>>>> MSN working right yet.
>>>>
>>>> Jane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:30 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So do I have to be on AIM to do screen sharing with you?
>>>>> On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:27 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's an AOL account--taken from when I was in college and
>>>>>> attending ROTC classes. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:07 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like that screen name  lets set it up. I have MSN and g-mail.
>>>>>>> Will either of these work or do I need a dot Mac account?
>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Jane Jordan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forthat matter, the three of us could get together and chat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My screenname is BlindCadet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Darcy Burnard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Shaun.  Are you on ichat?  I was thinking that automator is
>>>>>>>>> one of those things that would be easier to show rather than
>>>>>>>>> explain.  So if we could do the ichat screen sharing thing some
>>>>>>>>> time, that might be easier.
>>>>>>>>> Darcy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5-Dec-07, at 10:35 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Either Jane or Darcey, can I contact either of you for a
>>>>>>>>>> understanding of Automator?
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2007, at 10:16 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Darcy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know of a range of values.  I e-mailed the
>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility folks and they sent me a link to a really
>>>>>>>>>>> complicated reference on controling speech output with
>>>>>>>>>>> commands embedded in text.  As an example, they gave me the
>>>>>>>>>>> rate control, but there's lots more that I haven't even begun
>>>>>>>>>>> to play with.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What I am *really* curious about doing now is, say, editing a
>>>>>>>>>>> file to have certain characters read with certain voices, for
>>>>>>>>>>> example, and have a narrator voice.  But that will be a while
>>>>>>>>>>> coming.  I may just have to write a test file and see how it
>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I may be able top play more tomorrow--the doctor has told me
>>>>>>>>>>> she would prefer it if I stayed home to try and get better
>>>>>>>>>>> from this cold--so I will see if I can come up with more.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But yes, to get back to the original question.   All I did
>>>>>>>>>>> was put left-bracket left-bracket rate 300 right-bracket
>>>>>>>>>>> right-bracket at the very top of the document, left it open
>>>>>>>>>>> in Textedit, and ran the application.  I am trying to figure
>>>>>>>>>>> out how to get text from email, hav e it delete certain text,
>>>>>>>>>>> and then run it, but I don't know if that is possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To the other person who wanted to ask questions, I can *try*
>>>>>>>>>>> and help, but I think actually Darcy is a little more
>>>>>>>>>>> experienced than me; he was the one that explained the very
>>>>>>>>>>> basics--he deos more with it thatn I am doing at the moment--
>>>>>>>>>>> though I am working on changing that, at least as far as
>>>>>>>>>>> creating books goes.  Which makes me wonder---if I put
>>>>>>>>>>> embedded commands into a text file, and ran it through
>>>>>>>>>>> books2burn, i wonder how well that owuld work?  I *think* it
>>>>>>>>>>> would work well.  I am doing the Say one for now, because it
>>>>>>>>>>> simply seems to be faster.  My one gripe with my automator
>>>>>>>>>>> action er application so far is that it automatically names
>>>>>>>>>>> the file audio text.aiff, and places it on the desktop, and
>>>>>>>>>>> what I want to do is to have it have the same name as thbe
>>>>>>>>>>> original file, except for audio at the end.  Ideally, I
>>>>>>>>>>> woul.d have it convert to mp3, but I don't know if that can
>>>>>>>>>>> be done without me playing it in iTunes.  Can it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I apologize--the toddler is sleeping, and I am just sitting
>>>>>>>>>>> down to think and so all this came up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jane.  This is cool.  So then do you just place the rate
>>>>>>>>>>>> command in the text itself?  Also, you used rate 300 in your
>>>>>>>>>>>> example.  What is the range of values you can put in there?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Darcy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5-Dec-07, at 6:15 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, so I could have done this in Terminal, I guess, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terminal was proving to be difficult to get to work right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did an automator work flow that takes text from TextEdit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and converts it into an audio file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you put left-bracket left-bracket rate 300 right-bracket
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right-bracket
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you will get Say to read the file at that speed.  I spelled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out the symbols, otherwise Voic eOver would interpret them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a command and you'd suddenly start having very fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>> speech!  Or slow, depending on how you like your Mac to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk to you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyhow, now I am experimenting with ways tomake it even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more interesting,.  It seems that saving a Workflow as an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Application is the best way to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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