Aim has an audio option for getting around the captcha.
Holly
On Dec 7, 2007, at 12:51 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
They still have the visual security feature to get around. I think
we were trying to get a common client and figured dot mac was the
obvious choice.
On Dec 7, 2007, at 1:37 AM, Holly Anderson wrote:
Hi. If you are doing this just so you can use ichat, you can get
an aim account and it works just fine. That's what I'm doing. You
don't need a .mac account for screen sharing.
Holly
On Dec 7, 2007, at 12:34 AM, Dan Keys wrote:
Hi,
And as I said earlier, If you Purchase a .Mac account, not the 60
day thing, you don't have to go through the image thing. Guess
I'll call Apple tomorrow.
Darn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dan
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:30 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I just tried it and it takes it to the site that Ester told us
about. I haven't a clue as to how else this can be done other
than calling Apple maybe. Back to square one...I wonder if we go
through Mac to get it do we have to pay Apple's price or can we
still use a cheaper vender?
On Dec 7, 2007, at 1:21 AM, Dan Keys wrote:
Okay, I'm going to give it a try after my next cup of strong-
strong coffee.
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:18 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I think you can do it in system preferances, I will try it
before morning and let you know. If you find out before me then
get back with the list. If we three get it up and running will
you use the screen sharing feature to discuss Automator with us?
On Dec 7, 2007, at 1:08 AM, Dan Keys wrote:
Hi,
I was told that to set up a 60 day .Mac account, you would
have to answer the information in an image and that no Audio
clip is available for blind people. I sure hope this isn't
true. Further more, I was told that if you wanted to purchase
a .Mac account that you wouldn't have the graphic problem.
Does anyone know the answer to how signing up for a 60 day
account works?
Thanks,
Dan
On Dec 6, 2007, at 7:39 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Shaun.
You do know that you can sign up for a free 60-day trial .Mac
account,
don't you? You could use that for iChat. I'm not sure
whether the
ability to use iChat even expires after the 60 days, since
your user
name is probably still active. Of course, if you send mail
to your
.Mac account you won't be able to read it without subscribing
after the
60 day period.
If you're interested, just go to:
http://www.apple.com/dotmac/
and use the links chooser menu (VO-keys+U) to navigate to the
"Free Trial" button. VO-keys+space bar will take you to the
signup page. I got a dot Mac account through a promotional
offer
at my Apple Store, and not through the web page, but it
should be
doable if you're interested.
Cheers,
Esther
On Dec 06, 2007, at 05:11PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I will have to get a AIM account. Give me a minute to figure
out the
security mechanism that AOL has when this type of account is
set up.
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:
Yes, since I don't have a Google account set up, nor have I
gotten
MSN working right yet.
Jane
On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:30 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
So do I have to be on AIM to do screen sharing with you?
On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:27 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:
It's an AOL account--taken from when I was in college and
attending ROTC classes. :)
Jane
On Dec 6, 2007, at 6:07 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
I like that screen name lets set it up. I have MSN and
g-mail.
Will either of these work or do I need a dot Mac account?
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Jane Jordan wrote:
Forthat matter, the three of us could get together and
chat.
My screenname is BlindCadet.
Jane
On Dec 6, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Darcy Burnard wrote:
Hi Shaun. Are you on ichat? I was thinking that
automator is
one of those things that would be easier to show
rather than
explain. So if we could do the ichat screen sharing
thing some
time, that might be easier.
Darcy
On 5-Dec-07, at 10:35 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
Either Jane or Darcey, can I contact either of you
for a
understanding of Automator?
On Dec 5, 2007, at 10:16 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:
Hello Darcy.
I don't know of a range of values. I e-mailed the
accessibility folks and they sent me a link to a
really
complicated reference on controling speech output with
commands embedded in text. As an example, they gave
me the
rate control, but there's lots more that I haven't
even begun
to play with.
What I am *really* curious about doing now is, say,
editing a
file to have certain characters read with certain
voices, for
example, and have a narrator voice. But that will
be a while
coming. I may just have to write a test file and
see how it
works.
I may be able top play more tomorrow--the doctor has
told me
she would prefer it if I stayed home to try and get
better
from this cold--so I will see if I can come up with
more.
But yes, to get back to the original question. All
I did
was put left-bracket left-bracket rate 300 right-
bracket
right-bracket at the very top of the document, left
it open
in Textedit, and ran the application. I am trying
to figure
out how to get text from email, hav e it delete
certain text,
and then run it, but I don't know if that is possible.
To the other person who wanted to ask questions, I
can *try*
and help, but I think actually Darcy is a little more
experienced than me; he was the one that explained
the very
basics--he deos more with it thatn I am doing at the
moment--
though I am working on changing that, at least as
far as
creating books goes. Which makes me wonder---if I put
embedded commands into a text file, and ran it through
books2burn, i wonder how well that owuld work? I
*think* it
would work well. I am doing the Say one for now,
because it
simply seems to be faster. My one gripe with my
automator
action er application so far is that it
automatically names
the file audio text.aiff, and places it on the
desktop, and
what I want to do is to have it have the same name
as thbe
original file, except for audio at the end.
Ideally, I
woul.d have it convert to mp3, but I don't know if
that can
be done without me playing it in iTunes. Can it?
I apologize--the toddler is sleeping, and I am just
sitting
down to think and so all this came up.
Jane
On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:
Hi Jane. This is cool. So then do you just place
the rate
command in the text itself? Also, you used rate
300 in your
example. What is the range of values you can put
in there?
Darcy
On 5-Dec-07, at 6:15 PM, Jane Jordan wrote:
OK, so I could have done this in Terminal, I
guess, but
Terminal was proving to be difficult to get to
work right.
I did an automator work flow that takes text from
TextEdit
and converts it into an audio file.
If you put left-bracket left-bracket rate 300
right-bracket
right-bracket
you will get Say to read the file at that speed.
I spelled
out the symbols, otherwise Voic eOver would
interpret them
as a command and you'd suddenly start having very
fast
speech! Or slow, depending on how you like your
Mac to
talk to you.
Anyhow, now I am experimenting with ways tomake it
even
more interesting,. It seems that saving a
Workflow as an
Application is the best way to go.
Jane
