fine, but you can still use command-c if you are positioned correctly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: Re: shortcuts
In column mode is the only time I use it. On Dec 10, 2007, at 10:17 AM, David Poehlman wrote: > copy alias should not need to be used unless you are focused on the > item > outside the column. I never use copy alias. I didn't even know it > existed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:00 AM > Subject: Re: shortcuts > > > Sorry, we got it worked out finally. I was pressing command C instead > of using the context menu and going to copy alias. This was the only > problem and now it works like a charm. Thanks > On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > >> K, just tried this in column mode as well, and it worked again. >> >> for clarity's sake, I interacted with the column browser, and then >> used plain arrows rather than VO arrows to navigate. When I found a >> folder I wanted with up / down arrows, I pressed right arrow, and >> then navigated up / down again or pressed the first few letters of >> what I wanted. When I found what I needed to alias, I used VO shift >> M and the rest is familiar... >> >> I have my cursor options checked except for VO cursor tracks mouse >> cursor. I also have my initial cursor position set to move to the >> keyboard focused item. -Just an FYI... >> >> Not sure what to say, <smile> but again,if I figure out anything >> for you that might help, I'll definitely let ya know!... >> >> Have a great day!... >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:38 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >> >>> The only two things I see different is that you are closing the >>> finder window in one of your steps and that you are in Icon mode >>> and I am in column mode. I can see the finder window being the >>> problem but not the view. What do you think? >>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>> >>>> Shaun, I just tried your experiment and it worked flawlessly for >>>> me. >>>> >>>> 1 I navigated to my podcasts folder in my user folder and then in >>>> my music/Itunes/ITunesmusic folder. I ctrl clicked on podcasts >>>> and created an alias, renamed it, and pressed enter... >>>> >>>> 2 I copied it to my desktop folder in my user folder. >>>> >>>> I then closed my finder window and went to the desktop, and then >>>> opened my alias, which I'd called My podcasts... >>>> >>>> 3 A finder window came up which was titled podcasts, as it was >>>> opening my podcasts folder. >>>> >>>> 4 I then deleted a podcast, closed the window, and checked the >>>> trash to see if it was there. It was... >>>> >>>> 5 I visited my original podcast folder and checked that the item >>>> was in fact deleted, and it was. >>>> >>>> 6 For the sake of thoroughness, I also clicked on the original >>>> alias I'd just made which was also still in the same folder as my >>>> podcasts folder, as I'd not deleted it yet, after I'd pasted it to >>>> my desktop. Again, as predicted, my podcasts folder opened, and >>>> the podcast I'd deleted was still deleted. >>>> >>>> 7 I should also note that during all of this, no names or such >>>> were changed at all, aside from anything I, myself changed. I >>>> also want to mention that I use icon view in the finder. >>>> >>>> 8 I then proceeded to recopy the podcast I'd moved to the trash, >>>> back to its original location, and remove my aliases. >>>> >>>> 9 I emptied the trash, and all was as when I'd started. >>>> >>>> I"m not sure what's happening on your end, but it sure sounds like >>>> you're making a copy of the original folder somehow. >>>> >>>> If anything comes to mind, I'll be sure and post it, K?... For >>>> now, best of luck!... >>>> >>>> Have a wonderful day!... >>>> >>>> Smiles, >>>> >>>> Cara :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 6:29 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yup,I changed it to Notepad and moved it to the Desktop and it >>>>> opened Textedit. This tells us that it works properly and there >>>>> is something wrong with the ITunes/Music/Podcast folder when the >>>>> same is attempted. The reason why this interest me so much is >>>>> because I look at this folder often instead of going through I >>>>> Tunes. What do you or anyone else think? >>>>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:33 AM, David Poehlman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know why this should happen. Try this, take text edit, >>>>>> make an >>>>>> alias of it, place the alias on the desktop, rename it, open it, >>>>>> do you get >>>>>> text edit? If so, things are working as they should and it may >>>>>> be that the >>>>>> podcast folders are smart and will not work together or >>>>>> something like that. >>>>>> I have not tried doing an alias with a folder but it should >>>>>> work. We'll >>>>>> have to dig into this. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of >>>>>> Mac OS X by >>>>>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:45 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: shortcuts >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This makes sence but it doesn't work. Para and David please >>>>>> follow me >>>>>> because this is interesting. Following a mixture of both of your >>>>>> steps >>>>>> this is what I did, this is what I got and this is what peaks my >>>>>> interest. What I did is press command L on the pod-cast folder >>>>>> in the >>>>>> Finder. This created a alias that wanted me to rename it. I >>>>>> named it >>>>>> "I Listen". I copied this folder to the Desktop. I went into >>>>>> the I >>>>>> Listen folder and deleted a podcast. I went back to my original >>>>>> pod- >>>>>> cast folder and it was still there. Here is what is >>>>>> interesting. I >>>>>> renamed the alias as soon as it prompted me to do so to I >>>>>> listen. I >>>>>> copied that folder to the desktop but it changed back to Pod- >>>>>> cast not >>>>>> I Listen. I did not delete the copy of the first I Listen pod- >>>>>> cast >>>>>> folder and it was updated with the deleted pod-cast but the >>>>>> original >>>>>> wasn't touched. What am I missing here? >>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Shaun, this was what confused me before when trying to answer >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> question. Do you have a single alias to point to your podcast >>>>>>> folder or several to point to each individual podcast within >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> podcast folder?... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have many aliases which point to many podcasts, then >>>>>>> regardless of whether you delete or do anything to, your >>>>>>> aliases, >>>>>>> your original items will remain in the original folder. Now, >>>>>>> if you >>>>>>> have just one alias which points to your podcast folder, >>>>>>> anything >>>>>>> you change from there will act on the original folder. I.E. if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> remove a podcast that you arrive at from opening your alias, >>>>>>> then it >>>>>>> will be removed from your original folder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does this make sense?... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> An alias points to a particular object, so if you create an >>>>>>> alias >>>>>>> which points to a folder, it would tell that folder to open >>>>>>> when you >>>>>>> click on the alias... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So you'd actually be opening the original folder in this case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, if you've created many aliases which point to files >>>>>>> within a >>>>>>> folder, they will do the same thing; I.E. open a podcast within >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> podcast folder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But in the case of any alias, whatever you do to it doesn't >>>>>>> effect >>>>>>> what it points to. So, if you delete an alias, you simply >>>>>>> remove >>>>>>> the pointer which previously pointed to the folder or file. The >>>>>>> folder or file is still there. The reason that my example above >>>>>>> with the single alias to the folder works, is because after you >>>>>>> click on your alias which points to your folder, what you get >>>>>>> then, >>>>>>> is the actual folder opening, and you can see the actual >>>>>>> files. So >>>>>>> whatever you do to them then, happens in the actual folder. >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> you're seeing in the folder are not aliases and are the actual >>>>>>> files... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this helps!... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a wonderful day!... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Smiles, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cara :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:10 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still they don't update themselves. I delete a pod-cast on the >>>>>>>> desktop it doesn't delete it from the original. My question is >>>>>>>> why? >>>>>>>> To continue the file path podcast/macbreakweekly/episode. If >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> is the alias I put on the desktop as a alias and I delete >>>>>>>> episode >>>>>>>> in the alias I still have a copy of what was deleted in the >>>>>>>> original. >>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Jos wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In your music/iTunes/iTunes Music folder there is a folder for >>>>>>>>> podcasts. If you create an alias for that folder and put it >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> your desktop you can then simply click that alias and it will >>>>>>>>> automatically navigate to that folder and show you its >>>>>>>>> contents in >>>>>>>>> Finder. Aliases are just pointers to quickly open a file, >>>>>>>>> folder, >>>>>>>>> application, etc, without moving it from its current location. >>>>>>>>> Josh de Lioncourt >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ...my other mail provider is an owl... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3 Dec, 2007, at 10:00 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I almost understand what you are saying, but in the instance >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> the pod-cast folder in my Music folder you are saying just >>>>>>>>>> move >>>>>>>>>> that folder to the new place on the system. In regards to the >>>>>>>>>> alias I don't understand it's purpose. If I create a alias >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> this folder on my Desktop what is it's purpose? If a new pod- >>>>>>>>>> cast >>>>>>>>>> is added the alias knows nothing about it. 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