all I do is press command-c on the item.  I guess you picked copy alias from 
the context menu?

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From: "Cara Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: shortcuts


   K, just tried this in column mode as well, and it worked again.

for clarity's sake, I interacted with the column browser, and then
used plain arrows rather than VO arrows to navigate.  When I found a
folder I wanted with up / down arrows, I pressed right arrow, and then
navigated up / down again or pressed the first few letters of what I
wanted.  When I found what I needed to alias, I used VO shift M and
the rest is familiar...

I have my cursor options checked except for VO cursor tracks mouse
cursor.  I also have my initial cursor position set to move to the
keyboard focused item.  -Just an FYI...

Not sure what to say, <smile>  but again,if I figure out anything for
you that might help, I'll definitely let ya know!...

Have a great day!...

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:38 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

> The only two things I see different is that you are closing the
> finder window in one of your steps and that you are in Icon mode and
> I am in column mode. I can see the finder window being the problem
> but not the view. What do you think?
> On Dec 4, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>
>> Shaun, I just tried your experiment and it worked flawlessly for me.
>>
>> 1 I navigated to my podcasts folder in my user folder and then in
>> my music/Itunes/ITunesmusic folder.  I ctrl clicked on podcasts and
>> created an alias, renamed it, and pressed enter...
>>
>> 2 I copied it to my desktop folder in my user folder.
>>
>> I then closed my finder window and went to the desktop, and then
>> opened my alias, which I'd called My podcasts...
>>
>> 3 A finder window came up which was titled podcasts, as it was
>> opening my podcasts folder.
>>
>> 4 I then deleted a podcast, closed the window, and checked the
>> trash to see if it was there.  It was...
>>
>> 5 I visited my original podcast folder and checked that the item
>> was in fact deleted, and it was.
>>
>> 6 For the sake of thoroughness, I also clicked on the original
>> alias I'd just made which was also still in the same folder as my
>> podcasts folder, as I'd not deleted it yet, after I'd pasted it to
>> my desktop.  Again, as predicted, my podcasts folder opened, and
>> the podcast I'd deleted was still deleted.
>>
>> 7 I should also note that during all of this, no names or such were
>> changed at all, aside from anything I, myself changed.  I also want
>> to mention that I use icon view in the finder.
>>
>> 8 I then proceeded to recopy the podcast I'd moved to the trash,
>> back to its original location, and remove my aliases.
>>
>> 9 I emptied the trash, and all was as when I'd started.
>>
>> I"m not sure what's happening on your end, but it sure sounds like
>> you're making a copy of the original folder somehow.
>>
>> If anything comes to mind, I'll be sure and post it, K?...  For
>> now, best of luck!...
>>
>> Have a wonderful day!...
>>
>> Smiles,
>>
>> Cara  :)
>>
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 6:29 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Yup,I changed it to Notepad and moved it to the Desktop and it
>>> opened Textedit. This tells us that it works properly and there is
>>> something wrong with the ITunes/Music/Podcast folder when the same
>>> is attempted. The reason why this interest me so much is because I
>>> look at this folder often instead of going through I Tunes. What
>>> do you or anyone else think?
>>> On Dec 4, 2007, at 8:33 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know why this should happen.  Try this, take text edit,
>>>> make an
>>>> alias of it, place the alias on the desktop, rename it, open it,
>>>> do you get
>>>> text edit?  If so, things are working as they should and it may
>>>> be that the
>>>> podcast folders are smart and will not work together or something
>>>> like that.
>>>> I have not tried doing an alias with a folder but it should
>>>> work.  We'll
>>>> have to dig into this.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "VaShaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
>>>> OS X by
>>>> theblind" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 5:45 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: shortcuts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This makes sence but it doesn't work. Para and David please
>>>> follow me
>>>> because this is interesting. Following a mixture of both of your
>>>> steps
>>>> this is what I did, this is what I got and this is what peaks my
>>>> interest. What I did is press command L on the pod-cast folder in
>>>> the
>>>> Finder. This created a alias that wanted me to rename it. I named
>>>> it
>>>> "I Listen". I copied this folder to the Desktop. I went into the I
>>>> Listen folder and deleted a podcast. I went back to my original
>>>> pod-
>>>> cast folder and it was still there. Here is what is interesting. I
>>>> renamed the alias as soon as it prompted me to do so to I listen. I
>>>> copied that folder to the desktop but it changed back to Pod-cast
>>>> not
>>>> I Listen. I did not delete the copy of the first I Listen pod-cast
>>>> folder and it was updated with the deleted pod-cast but the
>>>> original
>>>> wasn't touched. What am I missing here?
>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Shaun, this was what confused me before when trying to answer your
>>>>> question.  Do you have a single alias to point to your podcast
>>>>> folder or several to point to each individual podcast within your
>>>>> podcast folder?...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have many aliases which point to many podcasts, then
>>>>> regardless of whether you delete or do anything to, your aliases,
>>>>> your original items will remain in the original folder.  Now, if
>>>>> you
>>>>> have just one alias which points to your podcast folder, anything
>>>>> you change from there will act on the original folder. I.E. if you
>>>>> remove a podcast that you arrive at from opening your alias,
>>>>> then it
>>>>> will be removed from your original folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this make sense?...
>>>>>
>>>>> An alias points to a particular object, so if you create an alias
>>>>> which points to a folder, it would tell that folder to open when
>>>>> you
>>>>> click on the alias...
>>>>>
>>>>> So you'd actually be opening the original folder in this case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, if you've created many aliases which point to files within a
>>>>> folder, they will do the same thing; I.E. open a podcast within
>>>>> your
>>>>> podcast folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in the case of any alias, whatever you do to it doesn't effect
>>>>> what it points to.  So, if you delete an alias, you simply remove
>>>>> the pointer which previously pointed to the folder or file.  The
>>>>> folder or file is still there.  The reason that my example above
>>>>> with the single alias to the folder works, is because after you
>>>>> click on your alias which points to your folder, what you get
>>>>> then,
>>>>> is the actual folder opening, and you can see the actual files.
>>>>> So
>>>>> whatever you do to them then, happens in the actual folder.  what
>>>>> you're seeing in the folder are not aliases and are the actual
>>>>> files...
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this helps!...
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a wonderful day!...
>>>>>
>>>>> Smiles,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cara  :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:10 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Still they don't update themselves. I delete a pod-cast on the
>>>>>> desktop it doesn't delete it from the original. My question is
>>>>>> why?
>>>>>> To continue the file path podcast/macbreakweekly/episode. If this
>>>>>> is the alias I put on the desktop as a alias and I delete episode
>>>>>> in the alias I still have a copy of what was deleted in the
>>>>>> original.
>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Jos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your music/iTunes/iTunes Music folder there is a folder for
>>>>>>> podcasts.  If you create an alias for that folder and put it on
>>>>>>> your desktop you can then simply click that alias and it will
>>>>>>> automatically navigate to that folder and show you its
>>>>>>> contents in
>>>>>>> Finder.  Aliases are just pointers to quickly open a file,
>>>>>>> folder,
>>>>>>> application, etc, without moving it from its current location.
>>>>>>> Josh de Lioncourt
>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...my other mail provider is an owl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3 Dec, 2007, at 10:00 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I almost understand what you are saying, but in the instance of
>>>>>>>> the pod-cast folder in my Music folder you are saying just move
>>>>>>>> that folder to the new place on the system. In regards to the
>>>>>>>> alias I don't understand it's purpose. If I create a alias for
>>>>>>>> this folder on my Desktop what is it's purpose? If a new pod-
>>>>>>>> cast
>>>>>>>> is added the alias knows nothing about it. In other words it's
>>>>>>>> not updated like the original.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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>>
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