Hi Scott,

I've just tried chooser menu in Ultralingua, and sadly it didn't work. The item chooser menu contains various bits from the window where I type a search to the exclusion of the window where the results occur. I will just have to wait to see whether Ultrlingua is going to respond to my problems, or else use windows plantform for now. Let's hope that by reminding electronic products designers of our needs, things are going to improve with time.

Thanks for your suggestion, Scott, it helps me learn to try various tricks of the trade, so to speak.

With best wishes, Simon Cavendish
On 30 Dec 2007, at 12:34, Scott Chesworth wrote:

Hi Simon,

Have you tried the item chooser once you've performed your search? VO keys and i will launch that for you. If that allows you to get to the area you need to be in, you can type the first few letters of whatever that item turns out to be to get there quicker in future.

hth
Scott


----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Cavendish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: voiceover and ultraligua


Dear Listers,

I need to work in a multilingual environment from time to time. Under Windows latform, I used to use an electronic dictionary called Ultralingua. It worked ok-ish if I used Jaws cursor to read the results of a particular search. Ultralingua has its Macintosh version which I have downloaded in order to test drive it. Unfortunately, it seems to be quite inaccessible. What happens is that although I can access the combo box where I type the word I'm looking for, the results appear in a separate box underneath to which Voiceover does not want to go. I can move the scrobar up and down using the voiceover because the scrollbar is in the same box as the word search box. But the results are annoyingly beyond my reach.

Do you know of any tricks I could try to be able to read the result windows and still be able to move the vertical scrollbar up and down?

I've e-mailed Ultralingua with a gentle but detailed complaint regarding the inaccessibility of their product. I haven't heard from them yet. I had a constructive conversation with their top man once when I complained about the problems under Windows which were then caused by their having introduced skins into their product, and he showed some positive attitude and a promise that they were going to work on accesiblity. That was however a long time ago, and I haven't heard from them since. So I wouldn't hold my breath especially that their argument for not having looked at the accessibility was as it often is the case centred around the size of their business and a lack of resources.

With best wishes

Simon




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