Hello,

You have mentioned being able to select text in Safari and mail. Could you give me the keystrokes to do this? Thanks in anticipation.

Simon Cavendish
On 13 Jan 2008, at 12:45, David Poehlman wrote:

Hi Cheryl,

I hope you mean tiger because I don't have any experience with the
accessibility in panther although I did try.

There are vast improvements in VoiceOver with Leopard and they were written right into the description of Leopard in the VoiceOver section. I love the braille support, the header navigation, the way you can use the item chooser to quickly scan a window for similar objects and much more. Oh, there are some drawbacks but over all, it's a more solid os than tiger was at least for us and of course as with everything, Milage will vary. I don't like the new mail reading interface but have learned to live with especially because I found that you can use a special vo selection command to select text and that's another thing we can now do in safari is select a chunk of text.

Itunes is more accessible in fact, there are only one or two bits it seems that need to be worked out. Drag and drop works at least to some degree which it didn't for us in tiger and they've apparently fixed the cursor
tracking but we had in tiger.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheryl Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:33 PM
Subject: leopard verses panther


Hi all,
As stated in previous posts I've not yet upgraded to Leopard.
Rather, I've been watching the list to see what kind of report you
all would give it.  Unless I've missed something there hasn't been
such a post, so I'm going to ask a straight-forward question or two.

1.  Do you find a vast improvement in the new OS?
2.  If so, is that improvement in stability, accessibility, or
interaction and functionality?
3.  Are there disadvantages to Leopard?
4.  Is there not enough significant change to warrant an upgrade
right now?

I understand Mac loyalty for those of us who are die-hard long-time
users,, as well as appreciation for the VoiceOver team and all
they've done and are doing; however, honesty is honesty and I would
really appreciate some "where the rubber meets the road" answers,
please.
There's been some reviews  by folk who don't  use VoiceOver, but do
use the Mac, that give it a thumbs-down, saying that Apple released
it too soon and that one should wait for the next upgrade.  There's a
lot said about its beauty and such, but that isn't my focus.  I'm
just not wanting to trade the accessibility and functionality I
already have for something less or more frustrating.

Thanks for any input you would like to give,
Cheryl E.









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