When you are reading a page or message, interact with the text, press vo 
keys with enter to begin your selection, use vo keys with arrows to select 
your text, press vo keys with enter again to turn off selection, stop 
interacting and press command-c to copy.  It might be that you do the copy 
before closing the interaction but I don't think so.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Cavendish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: leopard verses panther


Hello,

You have mentioned being able to select text in Safari and mail. Could
you give me the keystrokes to do this? Thanks in anticipation.

Simon Cavendish
On 13 Jan 2008, at 12:45, David Poehlman wrote:

> Hi Cheryl,
>
> I hope you mean tiger because I don't have any experience with the
> accessibility in panther although I did try.
>
> There are vast improvements in VoiceOver with Leopard and they were
> written
> right into the description of Leopard in the VoiceOver section.  I
> love the
> braille support, the header navigation, the way you can use the item
> chooser
> to quickly scan a window for similar objects and much more.  Oh,
> there are
> some drawbacks but over all, it's a more solid os than tiger was at
> least
> for us and of course as with everything, Milage will vary.  I don't
> like the
> new mail reading interface but have learned to live with especially
> because
> I found that you can use a special vo selection command to select
> text and
> that's another thing we can now do in safari is select a chunk of
> text.
>
> Itunes is more accessible in fact, there are only one or two bits it
> seems
> that need to be worked out.  Drag and drop works at least to some
> degree
> which it didn't for us in tiger and they've apparently fixed the
> cursor
> tracking but we had in tiger.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS
> X by
> theblind" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:33 PM
> Subject: leopard verses panther
>
>
> Hi all,
> As stated in previous posts I've not yet upgraded to Leopard.
> Rather, I've been watching the list to see what kind of report you
> all would give it.  Unless I've missed something there hasn't been
> such a post, so I'm going to ask a straight-forward question or two.
>
> 1.  Do you find a vast improvement in the new OS?
> 2.  If so, is that improvement in stability, accessibility, or
> interaction and functionality?
> 3.  Are there disadvantages to Leopard?
> 4.  Is there not enough significant change to warrant an upgrade
> right now?
>
> I understand Mac loyalty for those of us who are die-hard long-time
> users,, as well as appreciation for the VoiceOver team and all
> they've done and are doing; however, honesty is honesty and I would
> really appreciate some "where the rubber meets the road" answers,
> please.
> There's been some reviews  by folk who don't  use VoiceOver, but do
> use the Mac, that give it a thumbs-down, saying that Apple released
> it too soon and that one should wait for the next upgrade.  There's a
> lot said about its beauty and such, but that isn't my focus.  I'm
> just not wanting to trade the accessibility and functionality I
> already have for something less or more frustrating.
>
> Thanks for any input you would like to give,
> Cheryl E.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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