have you used mouse keys? why should people be forced to reach when they cannot? There are a range of disabilities and other issues which the lack of a virtual numeric keypad will exaserbate.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lewis Brock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: Re: new apple macbook and macbook pro keyboards: why is it not sufficient? I have used it effectively through the years as a laptop user on macs and windows laptops. I fail to understand what your gripe is with this issue. if all the main functions are on the keyboard including commands as example multiply and more then ok just use shift keys with certain number keys etc. as I say as a touch typist and with experience with laptops with inbuilt and seperated keypads I really only use the standard row above the main typing section. that does the work for me from entering phone numbers, mathematical equations and more. lew On 27 Feb 2008, at 17:35, David Poehlman wrote: > the top row is not sufficient. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lewis Brock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: new apple macbook and macbook pro keyboards: > > > well guys. ok having a numeric keyboard overlay can be at times > useful. to me though it has always been a pain. I've never liked it at > all. even on my old powerbooks from years ago I never used it and just > used the top row configuration all the time. > > ok if apple were to bring out another macbook pro then why not have a > num pad on the right hand side and yes it would fit on a 17 inch > notebook. prime examples are show by toshiba and dell. hang on sorry I > shouldnt mention those discusting names on here. > > as you can tell I am totally pro apple. I love the hardware and it has > made a dramatic difference to my life and work. lets make sure apple > continues to keep up the standard with updates for OS X and iWork etc > as well as getting microsoft for mac aware that yes we DEMAND access > to office 2008. > > lewy > > anyhow. just kicked myself. bought my macbook last week and found out > yesterday they just launched the brand new macbook 2.4ghz with 2gb ram > for less than my 2.2 with 2gb ram. oh bugger. might speak to the > company and arrange an upgrade if at all possible. > > > > > On 27 Feb 2008, at 16:42, David Poehlman wrote: > >> around the world, it's hard to tell, but I would imagine there's a >> lot of >> data entry that goes on. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh de Lioncourt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS >> X by >> theblind" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:22 AM >> Subject: Re: new apple macbook and macbook pro keyboards: >> >> >> j >> I'm slightly disappointed about this, but speaking realistic, how >> many >> people actually use the numeric overlay? Even among the VI users? >> Probably a very small percentage. Still, it's puzzling why they'd >> remove it at all. I do have a wireless numeric keypad I picked up >> for >> $5, so I'm covered, and think that that is pretty viable for the very >> few who use it. >> >> Josh de Lioncourt >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ...my other mail provider is an owl... >> >> >> >> On 27 Feb, 2008, at 7:26 AM, David Poehlman wrote: >> >>> We saw the disintroduction of the vnumpad with a recent edition of >>> macbook >>> and now we are seeing it across the line as expected. This is >>> dismaying for >>> accessibility reasons. I bought one of the new wireless keyboards >>> for My >>> pros to help alleviate this but it's sad that we have to sacrifice >>> portability in order to gain functionality which should be >>> universal. >>> >>> -- >>> Jonnie Appleseed >>> With His >>> Hands-On Technolog(eye)s >>> Reducing Technologies disabilities >>> one byte at a time >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > Lewis Brock > Blind Musician and Composer of 21st century synth music > > Phone: +44 07857 352828 > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN / Adium: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SKYPE: lewisjbrock > > > > > > > Lewis Brock Blind Musician and Composer of 21st century synth music Phone: +44 07857 352828 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN / Adium: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SKYPE: lewisjbrock
