Hi John. I was about to respond, but you said it better then I could. I just want to add that if someone wants to contribute something, and they don't want to start their own web site or podcast, there's no reason why they couldn't submit the material elsewhere. I know Josh is always looking for more content for lioncourt.com, so if someone wanted to write up a guide or something, I'm sure he'd love to have it. Alternatively, if audio is more your thing, you could always produce some tutorials or demos and submit them to a number of places. I know blind cool tech and main menu are always looking for new material, and you could also submit stuff here to the screenless switchers.
Darcy

On 25-Apr-08, at 1:00 PM, John Panarese wrote:

I'm honestly bewildered by the attitude and assertions made as well. It makes no sense to me. Gordon was one of the first people to demonstrate a part of VoiceOver with his presentation on virtual machines. As I said in my comments for the article, does it really matter who does the podcasts and such anyway? Isn't it important that VoiceOver is promoted overall? What is stopping any UK user from doing their own podcast on VO? I just don't get this sentiment in these reactions, as they almost sound "childish" in their tone and accusations. Go out and spread the word if you feel inclined to do so. Nothing is stopping anyone from doing it.


Take Care

John Panarese

On Apr 25, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

I'm still flummoxed as to where the notion is coming from that the UK Mac users are somehow excluded from anything. If Gordon's been on Main Menu, Mr. Shebanek from Apple has attended Sight Village, Anne Roberts has been on Screenless Switchers and done promotional work for Assistiveware, and so on, it hardly seems to me that European, let alone UK, users are being excluded.

And, as for the personal attacks on myself from James and Will, I have very little to say. I've done my utmost for this community, and will continue to do so. I hope my work for the VI community as a whole, not limited to Mac users, will speak for itself.

Josh de Lioncourt
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On 25 Apr, 2008, at 5:33 AM, will lomas wrote:

hi to all


In fairness, james jolley has a point in his comments. it is always the same people on these podcasts, it is never anyone fromt he UK. we have only had gordon ont he main menu podcast If josh thinks he is so good with the mac, then where is his software then for the mac? none, exactly.
release that game you ahve spent 2, 3 or maybe more years working on
To be honest, at least james knows what he is talking about, and all you guys do is moan if anyone has anything to say negative you all stand up and whine
wthrow me off i am waiting to hit the reply to unsubscribe button
ill




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