Hi dan, think total newbie here, smiles. For some reason he didn't
get the human voice in the quick start, and he probably doesn't know
that the vo keys are the control and option keys.
The control and option keys are the second and third keys from the
left on the bottom of the keybord.
Best,
Erik
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On 25-Apr-08, at 7:32 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
Hi John, I'd use your VO keys, along with your arrow keys to read
the rest of these pages. Hope that helps you.
On 25-Apr-08, at 10:22 AM, John Heim wrote:
I finally took the plunge and bought the low-end Mac Mini. First, 2
quick questions... Is there a way to get vo to read the entire
contents of a dialog box like hitting Insert+b in jaws? Also, can I
get it to say the title of a data entry field?
I am still in the setup program and when I press the continue
button, it goes to the next dialog box but it doesn't read the box.
You know what I mean? You press the continue button after entering
whatever data it's asking for and it goes to the next data entry
screen but it doesn't say anything. So I've been pressing tab and
then shift+tab to get it to read the title of the data entry field.
But I would guess there's more text in the dialog box than just the
titles of the data entry fields.
On to my story. You may or may not find this interesting. I'm not
complaining. I'm just telling my story. Well, maybe I'm complaining
a little bit. But I haven't even gotten though the setup program
yet so I'm sure I'll have lots of positive things to say once I get
going.
I bought the low-end Mac Mini last week Thursday. I'm not even
through the set up yet. But a big part of the reason for that is
that I opened the box at work last Thursday and took out the
pieces. And then I couldn't get them back in the box and accidently
left the power brick in my office. So Friday I stuffed the brick
into my backpack and when I got home, I discovered that I had also
left the power chord extension in my office. So then I couldn't do
anything all weekend either. It's an extremely minor complaint but
Apple should have made that chord a standard power chord.
Another minor complaint is that I had to take a printer/scanner/
copier along with my Mac. I'd have rather they'd taken $50 off the
price.
I took Monday off work so I couldn't pick up the power chord until
Tuesday. Tuesday night I got the thing powered up but then I
couldn't get it to talk. Maybe I didn't wait long enough for it to
boot but I wasn't getting any speech. I started pressing keys
hoping to remember the hotkey for starting voiceover. I finally got
on my Windows PC and googled for it. Command+F5. It started talking
but in French or German. I dunno. I putzed around with that for a
while and then turned it off.
Wednesday I turned it back on and it came up speaking in English.
But it didn't seem to want to do anything. I have a standard USB
keyboard and I thought maybe I needed an Apple keyboard. I was told
my standard keyboard should work I was listening to the Apple
tutorial on voiceover on my Windows PC but none of the keys did
what it said they would.
Thursday, I borrowed a bluetooth Mac keyboard from my boss. She
told me i'd probably need sighted assistance to set it up. That may
be correct but as it turns out, the problem I was having was that
the Mac wanted to run some kind of system check probably because I
had just cut the power to the thing the day before. That's my
theory anyway. I pressed enter, it played some funky music,
obviously was running some program, and then came up speaking
English. In fact, it asked me which language I wanted. So the first
time, I must have accidently selected another language. I can't
explain it but I sure didn't hear it ask me that the first time.
This time I selected English and was able to get through several
pages of the setup procedure. As I mentioned, my problem right now
is that I am a bit uncertain of what it's asking me because I don't
know how to get it to read all of the instructions in the dialog
boxes.
For example, it asked me for my email address but it doesn't seem
to like what I've entered. It's asking for my mac.com email address
and I don't know what that is.