John,

I feel your pain.  I had a lot of trouble pairing a keyboard as well.  Did 
you finally get command-control-option-shift to work?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Heim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby 
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Finally took the plunge


Well, the machine came with the OS installed. I've been working from an
on-line version of the VoiceOver getting started guide from the Apple web
site. As it turns out, the reason I have been having trouble following the
instructions is that I was using a standard USB keyboard. I have a bluetooth
Apple keyboard but  obviously I couldn't use it until it was enabled. And I
couldn't enable it until I figured out how to get by with the USB keyboard.
It must have taken me 2 hours to get that bluetooth keyboard enabled. You
have to type in an access key and I probably did that 100 times before it
finally took. I cannot imagine what the problem was. There is no way I typed
the number in wrong that many times. Anyway, it fiannly accepted the access
key and things became a lot simpler once all the keys were where the
tutorial said they'd be. Half an hour after I got the Apple keyboard
working, I was sending email.

Man, what a hassle. It's nobody's fault. Just one of those things. I kind of
anticipated this problem but I really wanted the bluetooth keyboard. If I
could have borrowed a wired Apple keyboard, I would have.

From: "Søren Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: Finally took the plunge


Hi John.

You can't run the start guide until you have installed your operating
system. Did you got my mail where I explained how to read the screen
with the VO cursor?
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 26/04/2008, at 03.11, John G. Heim wrote:

> Should I still be able to get into the  quick start  guide now that  I've
> already run the setup program? Control-Option-Command-F8 does  nothing.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh de Lioncourt"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS  X by
> theblind" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 11:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Finally took the plunge
>
>
>> David and all,
>>
>> The key command for the quick start is Control-Option-Command-F8,  not
>> Control-Option-F8.  The latter just launches the VO utility.
>>
>> Josh de Lioncourt
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> ...my other mail provider is an owl...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Apr, 2008, at 7:56 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> I imagine you have moved on, but something that will help you out  a
>>> lot if
>>> you can get it going at this point is the vo quickstart tutorial  It
>>> would
>>> have come up automatically after the music stopped had you not   turned
>>> on vo
>>> but if you can get it to work at this point, the keystroke for it  is:
>>> control-option-f8.
>>>
>>> To navigate through a dialog and hear all its info, use
>>> control-option-arrows.  Space toggles checkboxes, sets radio  buttons
>>> and
>>> activates pop ups so that you can make selections.  when you find   what
>>> you
>>> want in a pop up, press enter to set it.  I often tab through the
>>> items and
>>> then use vo keys with left arrow to hear the text of an Item if I  am
>>> not
>>> certain what it is.
>>>
>>> When ever I do a new mac setup, I have to use an apple keyboard  to  get
>>> it
>>> going.
>>>
>>> There is a setting in that dialogbox to choose the type of  account  you
>>> have,
>>> pop, imap or .mac.  Once you have seleced the account type, it   should
>>> accept
>>> your email address.  .mac is an email account that comes with a .mac
>>> subscription or trial.  .mac is an apple hosted service that   provides
>>> a
>>> bunch of features like storage, mail and web hosting.
>>
>
>







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