Hi Soren,

In the full version of eyetv 3, there is a full screen on screen menu which tells you, amongst other things, what is on all channels currently. You can use the remote to go forward an hour by pressing right as I recall, and the on screen display will change to what's on next. That would be what I meant by the "now and next" function.

The full screen display in eyetv 3 has lots of info. VO will read none of it !


Rachael

On 25 Apr 2008, at 16:40, Søren Jensen wrote:

Hi.

You are right. The program is not fully compatible with VO. You can't read the screen and it just says "unknown." I don't see any program guides in the lite version. You can always see a list of your recordings in your documents folder where Eye tv stores your recordings. I'm wandering what you mean with the "now and next functions?"
Best regards
Søren Jensen
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On 24/04/2008, at 19.26, Rachael wrote:


Hi Soren,

It seems from what you say that eyetv lite is only partially accessible with VO as I feared. I can get the info you get from eyetv lite with the full eyetv software I have - but I want VO to be able to read the program guide, so I can schedule recordings and know what's on too. I want to be able to hear the onscreen info spoken, use the now and next functions, and hear a list of my recordings spoken by VO. Basically I want the software to be VO fully compatible so I can have the same use of the program as a fully sighted person instead of getting the dreaded "Unknown" from VO when I try to do anything other than the most basic of program operations !

I feel very annoyed by Elgato's attitude that someone with a visual impairment might either not want to watch tv or must make do with restricted access to their software because of a visual impairment. I've experienced this attitude first hand on their discussion forums and in emails they have sent me when I've asked about VO support. Their support for close captions or subtitles for the deaf is quite good so I don't see why visually impaired tv watchers shouldn't be given the same support. But it's always the age old problem - getting software manufacturers to make their products accessible. It's like getting blood out of a stone.


Rachael

On 22 Apr 2008, at 17:39, Søren Jensen wrote:

Hi Rachael.

My Pinnacle tv tuner is not remotely accessible with VO either. But does it madder if you know what the different buttons does? In Eye Tv Lite, I can read with VO which channel I am on, and I just remember which number the channels are on. For recording, I just press the record button, and I know it's recording. Which features do you want Voiceover to speak when controlling your tv card remotely? Maybee it's just me, but I don't care about speech when I know what the different buttons does on my remote control.
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

On 21/04/2008, at 22.21, Rachael wrote:

Hi guys,

The elgato tuners use eyetv, which is not remotely accessible with VO. I know from bitter personal experience. I have been trying to get Elgato to add VO support to their software for some time but no joy. So don't waste your money on an Elgato product Lewis, if you absolutely must have VO compatibility it will be next to useless to you.

Also, the Miglia tv tuners you can buy in the UK use software called Tube 2. This is also not accessible with VO. I've tried that one too !

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.


Rachael


On 19 Apr 2008, at 16:59, Lewis Brock wrote:

Fairly soon I will be sorting out an elegato or something like it digital tuner USB card and will have a chance to road test the software. could be a few weeks or so I hope lol

lewy

if anyone else has info on something better or uses this tuner please drop me a line on list and let us know.

the tuner is about £40 on apple's website.

lew


On 19 Apr 2008, at 16:53, Dan wrote:

Hello everyone,
Does anyone know if there is a USB TV and Radio Receiver who's software works well with VO under Leopard? If so, what's its name and price and where can I read more about it?
Thanks.
Dan


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