AS I understand the windows rules, it's up to everyone but Microsoft to do 
their part well, not quite but more or less.  Now, as I understand it, Apple 
does much of the work to launch apps onto the windows platform so the 
windows folk now have to play by microsoft's rules and finish the job.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Caloggero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "General discussions on all topics 
relating to the use of Mac OS X bythe blind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [macvoiceover] Microsoft contact for accessibility issues


Richie Gardenhire  wrote:
> I've written up a commentary on Microsoft Messenger for Mac 7.0.  It  is a
> frustrating program accessibility-wise, because this is the  clearest
> indication we've seen yet that Microsoft simply does not  care about
> access.  This program could have been made accessible

Well, you could say exactly the same thing about Apple. They keep coming out
with iTunes releases for both mac and Windows, but only the mac version is
accessible. Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to add some keyboard
accessibility to the main window. Its sort of usable with the Jaws cursor,
but I'd not call this "accessible".

Its the same story: mac wants blind users on their platform, Microsoft wants
blind users on their platform. So, why should they make their products
accessible on their competetor's platform?
-- Rich

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Kearney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
the blind" <[email protected]>; "macvoiceover"
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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:33 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Microsoft contact for accessibility issues


> Here is an email to send any questions and comments about Microsoft
> products and accessibility issues. All of you should send your  comments
> and suggestions to him at once.
>
> Daniel Hubbell
> Technical Evangelist
> Microsoft Accessibility Business Unit
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Apr 30, 2008, at 10:48 AM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
>
>> All the more reason to make the switch to Mac.  I understand
>> screenreader developers for Windows are having a hard time keeping  up
>> with ever-changing trends in web designs and access strategies.
>> Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>> Skype: alaska_mac_attack.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I've written up a commentary on Microsoft Messenger for Mac 7.0.  It  is
>> a frustrating program accessibility-wise, because this is the  clearest
>> indication we've seen yet that Microsoft simply does not  care about
>> access.  This program could have been made accessible  with virtually no
>> work on Microsoft's part.  It almost works now.   Here's a link to th
>> commentary which outlines the problems.
>>
>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2008/04/29/microsoft-messenger-for-mac-70-released-without-accessibility/
>>
>> Josh de Lioncourt
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt
>> Mac-cessibility Site: http://www.Lioncourt.com
>>
>> ...my other mail provider is an owl...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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