Hi fn M does work to do insert. But think about when you do insert
f12 for the time. If you do a command with an f key, the function fn
causes it to do its hardware function, brightening and dimming the
screen, adjusting the volume etc. Not to mention the fact that you
have to do summersalts on some of those keycommands to make them work.
No, we need a single key to act as insert.
Regards
Justin Harford
Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and
looked awhile, pondering his voyage
John Milton
Paradise Lost
On Jun 7, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Justin, Shaun, Orin, and Others
You may be able to get the insert function working even on the new
laptops that don't have a num lock key. I found out that some of the
num-pad keys work even on these laptops if you turn on mouse keys.
Tim was able to confirm that some of these keys, including the "0"
key worked under NumPad Commander. I used the "5" key as a
"Mouse click" by turning on mouse keys and pressing FN+5 without
turning on NumPad Commander.
I don't think anyone has tested out this function, though, where I
wrote:
<begin excerpt>
Another point: I heard that a lot of Fusion users were upset because
there wasn't an easy way to get the Insert key working when the
num lock function went away on the new MacBooks. (They were used to
using the "m" key on the simulated number pad). I wonder whether
Fn+m under Mouse Keys will work for this?
<end excerpt>
Here's Tim's reply to the part of my post (of two days ago) about:
Discovery: Some Numpad commands work on the new MacBook and
MacBook Pro Laptops
Hi Esther,
Ester wrote: I was in the Apple Store today trying out MacBook and
MacBook Pro laptops
and I found that I could get some of the number pad functions to work
even though these laptops (since December 2007) have been made
without
the num lock function of the F6 key. Specifically, if I turned on
mouse keys, then FN+i worked like a mouse click just as if I had
pressed
"5" on the number pad of a full keyboard, or tried this on the number
pad area of my own laptop. Someone who is familiar with Numpad
Commander
in Leopard can check whether other commands work on these laptops
when you use this mode.
TK: This is a very interesting discovery indeed. Using Leopard, I
turned on the NumPad controller as suggested by Esther. I then set
Mouse Keys to be able to be turned on by pressing the Option key 5
times. The main area of the virtual NumPad now becomes available.
That is, 7-8-9 on the top row, U-I-O becomes 4-5-6, J-K-L becomes
1-2-3 M becomes 0 and the period is the decimal. With Keyboard
Practice on, along with Mouse Keys, this is confirmed as VO
announces the key and also announces the command associated to the
specific key of the NumPad Controller. The limitations come when
you attempt to access the other keys on the NumPad such as plus,
minus clear etc. There is no reference to these keys in this
version of the virtual NumPad. You can though use the modifier keys
like ctrl, option, command and shift to map those commands to the
existing number keys. For example, I mapped the Perform Action as
option-5 or option-I and the Contextual menu to ctrl-5 or ctrl-I.
Now, the problem arises when attempting to use MacOS keyboard commands
because the cmd-key has lost its functionality for pressing things
like cmd-w to close or cmd-o to Open. I imagine that I could get used
to using a double-click of the "5" or "I" key to open instead but
there still would be some frustrations in that regard. Someone else
may have a work around for this but in my limited testing I couldn't
come up with a good idea yet.
Cheers,
Esther
P.S. I'm not sure I would want to give up access to the Command key.
On June 07, 2008, at 03:02PM, "Justin Harford"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
if you have a num-pad.
Regards
Justin Harford
Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and
looked awhile, pondering his voyage
John Milton
Paradise Lost
On Jun 7, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Shaun Jones wrote:
You can use the 0 key on the number pad to get the insert function
working.
On Jun 7, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Orin wrote:
Hey all,
Please, I'd rather not use window eyes. There must be a way to fix
this stupid problem regarding the jaws key. I turned on the laptop
layout and tried using the Mac capslock and the Mac capslock comes
on.
I couldn't find insert on my iMac keyboard either.
This is all I'll need, really.
Thanks.
