No, I got all punctuation turned off.

Chris.


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He was just teasing.
Didn't you see the :)
Olivia

On Jul 22, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Chris, relax, he was just teasing you. Good lord he did answer your questions after all. It was more than two questions, but no harm, ask two, ask three, no big deal.

On Jul 22, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:

and how do you
perceive me as asking half a dozen questions? Perhaps maybe from now on I should ask none since I ask too much? Hmm?



Chris.





----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Really stupid question, but...




Chris Gilland wrote:
I know th answer to this already, most likely, but I can't resist asking.

Actually, I have two questions.

Firstly, Being that really in all truth, under the hood, the Mac OS is in deed Unix, If I go to a terminal, how likely is it, I could install the Debian package I bought of T T Synth, for Linux, register it, then, use that with voice over. I know you need

libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 or someting to that effect, don't have the library name up in front a me. It's basicly an older c++ library, but, being that that synth was built around the Unix platform, etc. I just wonder if it could in theory, be done.
That's really about half a dozen questions <smile>. Yes, OSX is unix underneath but if you're familiar with unix then you also know that there are many many flavors and software for one doesn't just run under another. So you have the HPUX, Solaris, Liux, BSD and whatever flavors of packages. Today most releases are for Linux but even then there are dozens of variations of Linux which all do things a little different. So, if you had the src files you could in theory compile and link it to the appropriate libraries and it would run. The tricky bits would be hooking it into the audio libraries since I'm assuming OSX's method for doing this would be much different than any other unix. Unix historically (other than maybe SGI Irix) hasn't been big into sound so I guess each variant did its own thing, if they supported sound at all. A step beyond is any APIs into AT such as screen readers. Windows, Mac and Linux all have their own APIs for how apps communicate what's going on to the assistive technology so any library for Linux would need modified to use the Apple API and I suspect the models of how things should work are going to be different.

The other thing I wonder is, if I wanted to play with an old copy a out spoken, could I install it, and shut off voice over for a temporary time, and see how it worked, or would I really need an older Mac for that. No, I really don't wanna switch to outspoken, God no. Im not that stupid, I'd just outta curiousity like to see it in action. Even if there were an mp3 somewhere a wsomeone using it.
Since Outspoken was an OS9 app it depends a bit on what hardware you're running. OSX on non-intel boxes had an OS9 emulator which will allow you to run older stuff. It might just work but you might have to have an OS9 app running to wake up the emulator before Outspoken would work, and Outspoken would only get its fingers into other OS9 apps.

CB

Chris.




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