Hence the need for emoticons. Since we can't hear voice inflections in
email what may have been meant as humor gets taken as a straight line
and feelings get hurt. While VO seems to get certain emoticons like :-)
(colon dash right paren) it doesn't seem to pick up on many others,
usually not reading anything at all. Hence my (and others) use of
<smile>. Back in the day I used to admin a BBS
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system) I often had to
smooth ruffled feathers when somebody forgot to annotate their humor.
It's just easier to do that up front than to try to patch things up
later. Plus there is always the suspicion that the culprit really didn't
forget their emoticon and really meant to be hurtful. Best not to even
start down that slippery slope. That said, having been through my share
of flame wars and disgruntled users I've got pretty thick skin. It would
have to be a fairly vociferous personal attack before it would bother me
and even then I'd probably write them off as uninformed. Nobody with all
the correct facts could disagree with my point of view <smile>
CB
Chris Gilland wrote:
Frankly, I was teasing as well.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X
by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Really stupid question, but...
Chris, relax, he was just teasing you. Good lord he did answer your
questions after all. It was more than two questions, but no harm, ask
two, ask three, no big deal.
On Jul 22, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
and how do you
perceive me as asking half a dozen questions? Perhaps maybe from
now on I should ask none since I ask too much? Hmm?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Really stupid question, but...
Chris Gilland wrote:
I know th answer to this already, most likely, but I can't resist
asking.
Actually, I have two questions.
Firstly, Being that really in all truth, under the hood, the Mac
OS is in deed Unix, If I go to a terminal, how likely is it, I
could install the Debian package I bought of T T Synth, for
Linux, register it, then, use that with voice over. I know you need
libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 or someting to that effect, don't have the
library name up in front a me. It's basicly an older c++ library,
but, being that that synth was built around the Unix platform,
etc. I just wonder if it could in theory, be done.
That's really about half a dozen questions <smile>. Yes, OSX is
unix underneath but if you're familiar with unix then you also
know that there are many many flavors and software for one doesn't
just run under another. So you have the HPUX, Solaris, Liux, BSD
and whatever flavors of packages. Today most releases are for
Linux but even then there are dozens of variations of Linux which
all do things a little different. So, if you had the src files you
could in theory compile and link it to the appropriate libraries
and it would run. The tricky bits would be hooking it into the
audio libraries since I'm assuming OSX's method for doing this
would be much different than any other unix. Unix historically
(other than maybe SGI Irix) hasn't been big into sound so I guess
each variant did its own thing, if they supported sound at all. A
step beyond is any APIs into AT such as screen readers. Windows,
Mac and Linux all have their own APIs for how apps communicate
what's going on to the assistive technology so any library for
Linux would need modified to use the Apple API and I suspect the
models of how things should work are going to be different.
The other thing I wonder is, if I wanted to play with an old copy
a out spoken, could I install it, and shut off voice over for a
temporary time, and see how it worked, or would I really need an
older Mac for that. No, I really don't wanna switch to
outspoken, God no. Im not that stupid, I'd just outta curiousity
like to see it in action. Even if there were an mp3 somewhere a
wsomeone using it.
Since Outspoken was an OS9 app it depends a bit on what hardware
you're running. OSX on non-intel boxes had an OS9 emulator which
will allow you to run older stuff. It might just work but you
might have to have an OS9 app running to wake up the emulator
before Outspoken would work, and Outspoken would only get its
fingers into other OS9 apps.
CB
Chris.
Scott Howell
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