Actually getting to CalTrain from bart is way easier than that.
Simply take bart all the way to Millbray and then switch over to
CalTrain directly from there. It saves a whole other step.
Smiles,
Cara :)
On Jul 23, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Janet and Felix * wrote:
How to get to Cupertino: OFF TOPIC, so you can stop and delete this
message here if you're not interested. *smile* janet.
Well, you would fly into San Jose International Airport, if that's
possible. That's the nearest airport to Cupertino. If not, there
is also Oakland International and San Francisco International.
From San Jose International, you would get a shuttle bus right to
Cal Train, and Cal Train heading north, toward San Francisco, stops
in Cupertino along the way. From there, not sure. Have to check.
Most likely any cab driver knows where the Apple Facility is, I
would think.
From Oakland International, there are shuttles to BART, and BART
goes to San Francisco, to the Embarcadero Station, where you can
get Muni Metro, either N-Judah or T-Third, to Cal Train, heading
south, and stops in Cupertino.
From San Francisco International, same thing. BART goes right to
the airport there. Get off at the Embarcadero station, take Muni N-
Judah or T-Third to Cal Train.
You can board the Muni right inside the Embarcadero BART station.
There's a booth right when you exit BART, with a person inside to
ask. Tell them you want the MUNI to the Cal Train Station, and
they can tell you how to board it.
It's all still underground at that point. You're still inside the
station. It's just that Muni runs one level up from BART, on
different tracks. And then surfaces to the city streets before the
next stop, heading the direction toward Cal Train, anyway. The
other direction, it stays underground for quite a few stations
before surfacing to city streets. The Cal Train stop is the end of
the line for N-Judah and it's the 4th & King stop for the T-Third.
Same stop for both Metro trains.
janet
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:31:35 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange happening
To: [email protected]
i dont know that area at all;) but will do this
On Jul 23, 2008, at 7:25 AM, UCLA Bruins Fan wrote:
It would be a great opportunity. I am up for giving it a try if
people really think we can make it work. I have to be in the bay
area (San Francisco) from october 16/20 for something else, but
would certainly be willing to go at another time as well if we can
pull this off, figure out housing logistics, etc.
If there is anything I can do to help let me know.
I don't know the bay area all that well, but know people who do.
Not sure how close to Cupertino they live, but can find out.
Olivia
On Jul 23, 2008, at 7:09 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
it would be cool if the group could sit down with the accessibility
team.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Krister Ekstrom"
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS Xby
theblind"
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange
happening
Another idea might be that some very knowledgeable people who
really
know their VO and possibly other products would demonstrate what
blind
people actually could do with a Mac and ask for some sort of
cooperation to help solve the problems that are there. Does it make
sence?
/Krister
23 jul 2008 kl. 00.08 skrev David Poehlman:
apple might actually be willing to host.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet and Felix *"
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of
Mac OS
X by
theblind"
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange
happening
I live in a dinky little apartment! But something could be
arranged
somehow!
I did a map directions search from our place to the facility. It
is
just
over 71 miles, and 1 hour 25 minutes travel time driving, one way.
Because
of driving through the city.
So I'm not sure we're the most convenient of locations. We do
have
friends
who live closer to Cupertino who might be willing to allow us to
use
their
house as a base. We'd have to do some checking.
janet
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:01:58 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange
happening
To: [email protected]
and can we use your house as a base?
On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Janet and Felix * wrote:
Felix says, arrange a tour of the facility. For a bunch of
blind
people. And then ask if (we) can sit down and talk to the
research/
development team leader to discuss ideas for better
accessibility.
We live about 70 miles north of Cupertino.
Just brainstorming.
janet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange
happening
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:33:14 -0400
Sure. Cupertino, here I come. LOL. :) I have to go up to the
bay
area
in October, so how about it? :)
I wish there was a way we could all camp out, but somehow I
doubt
it
would be effective.
On Jul 22, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Mike's Western Account wrote:
hey lets camp out side apple's hq untel something's done more
with
there media devises, lol
On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike's Western
Account">>>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of
Mac
OS X by theblind"
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange
happening
i think that we just need to go to apple and make things get
done;) lol
On Jul 22, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
speaking of IPods, why can't they put some form of speech
like
voiceover into IPods. I mean come on, if it could be done
with
Rockbox, then, surely Apple could do it with their own
product.
Why should it be our! burden.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman">>>>>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the
use of
Mac
OS Xby theblind"
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:37 PM
Subject: IPhone accessibility: was: Re: iTunes strange
happening
Hi CB, there are two ways this could be done. Apple could
engineer an ui
and back it with vo or a 3rd party could develop an app
that
talks. there
is a hardware device for the IPod called ITel I think that
achieves at least
part of this for the IPod.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch"
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use
of
Mac OS X by
theblind"
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes strange happening
So out of curiosity, how would you make an iPhone
accessible?
Obviously
it needs a speech engine, but how do you interact? There
is no
tactile
UI. I think it's a lot like a touch screen kiosk and some
have
simple
instructions saying to touch the top left for yes or top
right
for no.
That kind of interaction model doesn't scale very well for
complex
interaction like typing an email . Not making excuses for
Apple
but this
seems like a tough nut to crack.
CB
Krister Ekstrom wrote:
22 jul 2008 kl. 05.10 skrev UCLA Bruins Fan:
I did bring this to an apple agents attention when I was
calling
about another issue and was told that apple would "look
into
it" This
was in June, and appparently nothing has been resolved
as of
now.
But seriously, what do you expect with all this Iphone
business going
on? I'm sorry to sound like i do, but it has always been
like
this
that snassy flashy looks has been prioritized over
functionality and
accessibility. To be frank, i'm surprised that we have
such a
well
functioning screen reader as we have.
With all this said, i agree that the dialog in question
should be
usable, i just wonder what the best way to get there
is. If
we
get
angry and demanding, we will only be regarded as whiners
and
complainers and if we ask politely, not much seems to
happen.
/Krister
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