I'd generally point the finger at the web sites, not Safari. Safari is
one of the fastest browsers out there so if it's slow on Safari it
wouldn't be better anywhere else. That said, I poked at
blindcooltech.com. From the shell you can use the Apache Benchmark tool
by typing
ab blindcooltech.com/
which will retrieve the main page and give you some stats about it. You
can also do this a couple times and gets some average performance stats.
ab -n5 blindcooltech.com/
So here's some interesting bits from the AB report. On my fast
connection I got a throughput of 264K/s which is pretty good. Here's
where I think the snag comes in. The main page is 253K of HTML. That's
huge! Also, their server is not compressing the HTML so it sends that
entire huge blob on every request, which has to be soaking up a ton of
bandwidth. According to netcraft.com the site is running Apache on Linux
so they should be able to enable mod_gzip which compresses outbound HTML
(and all modern browsers know how to ungzip). That said, this page
should really be broken into separate pages, maybe by month or year.
That would go a long way to improving pageview performance. Just for
comparison, the google home page is 219B (thats one quarter of one K)
and aol.com is 18K (61K after uncompressing the gzip).
CB
Mike's Western Account wrote:
chris i've noticed this with sites like bct and such as well and see
it still in leopard, 2.0gbz duo core, 1gb of ram, so i'm not sure what
to say
On Jul 25, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
ok, this is somewhat strange. I guess it kind a makes sinse, but,
just hear me out here, cause then again, not really.
Basicly, I am running Safari V3. It's the latest build. BTW, yes
guys, I finally am starting to get the hang of it. I'm kind a
forcing myself to use it more and more. In any rate: I am noticing
that web sites are taking for ungodly long to load. I mean, so much
so, it's almost like I'm on dialup if not worse.
It's absolutely pathetic!
For instance: blindcooltech.com
took almost five minutes literally speaking just to chime, and load
all the way.
acbradio.org took almost two minutes.
however other sites like say: google, or say, aol.com, or, o, I
dono, say, jfwlite.com, or yahoo.com
Come up almost instantly.
Not quite instantly but maybe within 10 or 15 seconds. It's still
slower than my comfort, but, it's certainly a big improvement from 10
minutes to load bct, or five mins actually, sorry. Seems like ten
though. LOL! Literalloy speaking? I've not timed it, granted, but
I'm assuming, in all realisticness, and in all literality, it's
probably taking five minutes. Now, here is the odd thing though.
It's not my internet connection. I have two other windows machines.
These pages load in less than a tenth of a second nearly. literally
I hit enter to load the page, and bam! It's up.
I got voice over set to automatically interact with html content. I
shut off the toolbar, and the bookmarks bar from the view menu in
Safari.
I also went under general in the Safari preferences, and told it to
start with a blank untitled page. I went into security, in the
Safari preferences, and disabled images from loading, and also
disabled java for the time being. Not java script. I still got that
enabled, but I disabled just plain oal Java. I also went in the
voice over utility and unchecked the box to group html content. I
was suspicious that it was likely that was slowing it down as it had
to think to process what needed to be grouped. Well all this did!
significantly speed things up, but it's still a little slow. all
other internet based programs though like Fire, Skype, Mail, etc.
work just fine though. no lag at all.
Now, having said all this: I know that I have a Tiger system Power
Mac G4 500MHZ, and I am running 1.5GB of S D Ram. I'm wonderring, if
the processer being so slow, is causing it to take so long. I did a
trace route, and that looked fine. I even pinged google and that
also looked just fine. there was no packet loss. I had Time Warner
look to see if the HF signal was too high, or too low, and the DB
level on the line looks fine. Also a ping to my modem showed no
packet loss. the amount of hops in the trace route report looks
fine. So does the time over those hops. This is almost thus,
leading me, being that I connected my modem directly to my other pc's
and also went through my router, and in both senarios, they are a lot
faster than the Mac. The Mac is showing the exact same ping and
trace route results. everything looks good, to wonder, if this may
be an issue with my slow processer. I kind a doubt it though, as if
that was the case, wouldn't all my other applications, be slow? I
know some apps take higher threading priority than others, but, that
still doesn't really fully answer my question. I'm just trying to
pinpoint down why this is happenning. I seem to recall in Safari 2,
before I updated, that I had this same issue.
Anyway, any help would be wonderfully appreciated. Yes, I have done
software update. All is perfectly up to date and fine.
Yes I did clear my history, and my cache.
Chris.
