I find that everything loads very fast with safari, even on my work
machine which is running tiger, but which will be running leopard as
of next week.
I was able to convince them to upgrade my machine (thanks to who ever
suggested that!)
So, perhaps the problems you are experiencing are website issues, not
safari issues?
On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
I'd generally point the finger at the web sites, not Safari. Safari
is one of the fastest browsers out there so if it's slow on Safari
it wouldn't be better anywhere else. That said, I poked at
blindcooltech.com. From the shell you can use the Apache Benchmark
tool by typing
ab blindcooltech.com/
which will retrieve the main page and give you some stats about it.
You can also do this a couple times and gets some average
performance stats.
ab -n5 blindcooltech.com/
So here's some interesting bits from the AB report. On my fast
connection I got a throughput of 264K/s which is pretty good. Here's
where I think the snag comes in. The main page is 253K of HTML.
That's huge! Also, their server is not compressing the HTML so it
sends that entire huge blob on every request, which has to be
soaking up a ton of bandwidth. According to netcraft.com the site is
running Apache on Linux so they should be able to enable mod_gzip
which compresses outbound HTML (and all modern browsers know how to
ungzip). That said, this page should really be broken into separate
pages, maybe by month or year. That would go a long way to improving
pageview performance. Just for comparison, the google home page is
219B (thats one quarter of one K) and aol.com is 18K (61K after
uncompressing the gzip).
CB
Mike's Western Account wrote:
chris i've noticed this with sites like bct and such as well and
see it still in leopard, 2.0gbz duo core, 1gb of ram, so i'm not
sure what to say
On Jul 25, 2008, at 4:40 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
ok, this is somewhat strange. I guess it kind a makes sinse, but,
just hear me out here, cause then again, not really.
Basicly, I am running Safari V3. It's the latest build. BTW, yes
guys, I finally am starting to get the hang of it. I'm kind a
forcing myself to use it more and more. In any rate: I am
noticing that web sites are taking for ungodly long to load. I
mean, so much so, it's almost like I'm on dialup if not worse.
It's absolutely pathetic!
For instance: blindcooltech.com
took almost five minutes literally speaking just to chime, and
load all the way.
acbradio.org took almost two minutes.
however other sites like say: google, or say, aol.com, or, o, I
dono, say, jfwlite.com, or yahoo.com
Come up almost instantly.
Not quite instantly but maybe within 10 or 15 seconds. It's still
slower than my comfort, but, it's certainly a big improvement from
10 minutes to load bct, or five mins actually, sorry. Seems like
ten though. LOL! Literalloy speaking? I've not timed it,
granted, but I'm assuming, in all realisticness, and in all
literality, it's probably taking five minutes. Now, here is the
odd thing though. It's not my internet connection. I have two
other windows machines. These pages load in less than a tenth of
a second nearly. literally I hit enter to load the page, and
bam! It's up.
I got voice over set to automatically interact with html content.
I shut off the toolbar, and the bookmarks bar from the view menu
in Safari.
I also went under general in the Safari preferences, and told it
to start with a blank untitled page. I went into security, in the
Safari preferences, and disabled images from loading, and also
disabled java for the time being. Not java script. I still got
that enabled, but I disabled just plain oal Java. I also went in
the voice over utility and unchecked the box to group html
content. I was suspicious that it was likely that was slowing it
down as it had to think to process what needed to be grouped. Well
all this did! significantly speed things up, but it's still a
little slow. all other internet based programs though like Fire,
Skype, Mail, etc. work just fine though. no lag at all.
Now, having said all this: I know that I have a Tiger system
Power Mac G4 500MHZ, and I am running 1.5GB of S D Ram. I'm
wonderring, if the processer being so slow, is causing it to take
so long. I did a trace route, and that looked fine. I even
pinged google and that also looked just fine. there was no packet
loss. I had Time Warner look to see if the HF signal was too
high, or too low, and the DB level on the line looks fine. Also a
ping to my modem showed no packet loss. the amount of hops in the
trace route report looks fine. So does the time over those hops.
This is almost thus, leading me, being that I connected my modem
directly to my other pc's and also went through my router, and in
both senarios, they are a lot faster than the Mac. The Mac is
showing the exact same ping and trace route results. everything
looks good, to wonder, if this may be an issue with my slow
processer. I kind a doubt it though, as if that was the case,
wouldn't all my other applications, be slow? I know some apps
take higher threading priority than others, but, that still
doesn't really fully answer my question. I'm just trying to
pinpoint down why this is happenning. I seem to recall in Safari
2, before I updated, that I had this same issue.
Anyway, any help would be wonderfully appreciated. Yes, I have
done software update. All is perfectly up to date and fine.
Yes I did clear my history, and my cache.
Chris.