Thanks Esther, Tim too for supplying the help page.  I learned what I know from 
Felix. Felix didn't know about the short cut keys either.  

Cheers,

janet
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Keeping an App permanently in the Doc
> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 14:31:08 -1000
> To: [email protected]
> 
> Hi Janet,
> 
> I just wanted to make a few additions and comments to your  
> instructions for keeping an app that you opened in the Dock:
> 
> You wrote:
>> To keep and app in the Doc:
>>
>> open app, that puts it temporarily in the doc.  use control option  
>> d (vo d) to go to the doc.  Then use left-right arrows to go the  
>> the app icon.  Once on the app icon, use control option shift m (vo  
>> shift m) to open the pull down menu.  use the down arrow to find  
>> the option for keeping the app in doc.  escape key, if you're just  
>> looking at an app's options in doc and don't want to change anything.
> 
> For faster menu navigation, type "K" instead of using the arrow keys  
> to find the "Keep in Dock" option.  For Leopard, according to what  
> I've heard, you can also use this kind of type-ahead to go to  
> applications in the Dock (e.g., type the first two letters of iTunes,  
> "I T" to go there; type "GA" to go to GarageBand, "TE" for TextEdit,  
> etc.).
> 
> Your instructions are the easy way to put applications (permanently)  
> in the Dock, but for anything else that you want to put in the Dock  
> with VoiceOver -- a Downloads folder, file, folder, server, or webloc  
> file that can point to a URL -- the only accessible way I know of is  
> to use the Automator action that can be downloaded from Tim Kilburn's  
> web page for putting items into the Dock.  This works under both  
> Tiger  and Leopard:
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/downloads.html
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 

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