Hey all.
On the accessibility of Microsoft Messenger. I believe it is
accesible. I actually remember seeing an article that Microsoft
Messenger 7.0 was not accessible with voice over, and then they came
out with another addition which was revised as Microsoft Messenger
7.0.1, enabling support and accessibility for Voice Over.
I have not tried it myself. But, if someone should want to give it a
shot, it should be alright to use with VoiceOver.
If I can actually find the link for the article, I will post back.
Best,
Fonzie
On Sep 3, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Here's Microsoft's official Messenger for Mac 7 page:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/messenger/default.mspx
If it's like Office, it's probably not accessible. Being that
Windows Live Messenger is a Microsoft product for Windows they
probably don't have a lot of motivation to support it on another
platform, not to mention give it feature parity. This rhymes a lot
with the technology lockin strategy. Try to get people to use your
product not because it's better, but because you've made it not
interoperate. Same thing Apple does with iPhoto, iMovie and others.
I know one person who bought their first Mac because they were so
enamored with the quality of the Keynote presentations they could
do. You'll never see Keynote for Windows. iTunes was ported as a
strategic move to support the iPod ecology and boost their music
sales, giving them a bigger lever with the media types.
CB
Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
OK, cause I have heard someone telling me that there was a client
for the Mac that would do it, and when I put it in Google, I did
see a few things on macosx.org, but I couldn't quite remember what
the programs were that did it, or for that mind, know if they were
vo friendly.
Chris.
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chris
I think this is a windows messenger only feature meaning this is
windows only feature not mac
hope this helps
Hank
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Never mind. Yall aren't getting my question, and I dono any
other way a explaining it.
I am not referring to doing a voice chat. I am referring to
sending a voice clip! Those are two totally seperet things. I
don't wanna talk to the person via voice in a live real time
voice chat like you'd think of doing full duplex in Skype. That
is not what I wanna do. I wanna do this where I send the 20 or
so second long voice clip, then they get an IM window on their
end saying such and such sent a voice clip. Again. Just for the
record: I don't want to lively voice chat in a full on
conversation. I'm referring to just doing the 15 to 20 second
long voice clips that get recorded, then sent over msn to the
other party.
Chris.
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Doesn't ichat do voicechat?
On Aug 31, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
As for Skype, a lotta my contacts do use Skype, and so do I, so
I'm fine there. I think you all took a slight bit outta
context what I meant though. I wasn't referring to doing a live
voice chat. I meant just simply sending and receiving voice
clips back and forth like you can do in windows live messenger
8 under Windows by holding down the F2 key in a conversation
window speaking, then releasing the key to send it.
I just wish that there was a way on the Mac to do this, as I
have people who unfortunately can't seem to get it in their
heads that Adium won't voice clip.
Chris.
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Yep, people tell me all the time to switch to Adium and then
use Skype for voice communication. Problem is people are
using what's comfortable to them and who am I to demand they
use Skype so I can totally switch to Adium.
On Aug 31, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
not that easy. they don't wanna switch.
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can you just shift your contacts over to Ichat and create an
aim account?
Olivia
On Aug 30, 2008, at 11:45 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
The only issue though with IChat, is it won't do msn
messenger, which is where 99 percent of my contacts are.
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Ichat lets you audio and vidio chat. I use that as my
primary messenger and it works just fine.
Olivia
ger.
On Aug 30, 2008, at 4:57 AM, Tim Grady wrote:
As far as I know the only way you can do that now is use
Messenger for the Mac. Adium keeps threatening to add
voice support but it hasn't happened yet.
On Aug 30, 2008, at 6:30 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
What I want is to find a msn messenger Mac client
that'll let me send and receive voice clips.
Chris.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: VoiceOver and Windows Live Messenger?
There is a way to do this, but if you only want to text
message you might want to look at Adium from www.adiumx.com
. At least you can configure it with Growl.
Personally I like a messenger that doesn't require a
lot of interaction to use. You can do file transfers
and check hotmail but it doesn't support voice.
On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Angel Dockham wrote:
Hello,
I am using VoiceOver and would like to use Windows
Messenger for Mac but I can't seem to get VoiceOver
to read the contact list for messenger when I use
the control- option-shift-down arrow to interact
with the contents of the window it skips the
contants list and goes straight to image behind it.
Is there a way to have VO read the contacts list in
windows messenger or is it just not a compatiable
program for VO? or am I just not using the right
key combinations? btw I am running Live Messenger
7.01 if that helps at all.
thanks
