How do you switch to group mode? Is there a way to switch quickly from one mode to another?
 On Sep 11, 2008, at 4:13 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:

Frankly, I don't use it, however, I have before, and know what it is and how to do it.

Basicly, what the idea is behind groups mode, is it basicly takes certain items together, on a web page, and what it tries to do, basicly, is to group them together into one large clustered item.

Here:  let me give you an example.  I think that'll make it easier.

Let's say, for sake of example, that you are on a page, o, I dono, well, ok, we'll just say, heck, the Apple's main web site. OK, you may have a ton of links that are related. now, as for the html coding side a this? I haven't a clue! how that they tag this, so that voice over knows what's a group, that would be cool to learn. Anyway, so, you're voing through the page, and all a sudden, you may hear something like:

Group:  link:  home, Link: back, link: next.

OK, now you vo say, down the page again, now you hear search edit text.

So basicly, in one voice over command, you jumped over all 3 of thohse links. It grouped them all 3 into one item that voice over sees as a group.

So, let's say we wanted to click the next link, in that group. So, you're already obviously interacting with the html content. Well, this is gonna be a nested interaction basicly. Think of the group as a frame. It's not, so don't confuse yourself, but I'm having you think that way, as you're gonna work the same way with it. when you vo back up and hear that group, and what is in it, then, interact with that group. Then once you are working in that group, it's like normal. vo around, get to the next link, then do your vo space.

Groups navigation, basicly also makes it good, cause you can hear larger chunks of the page in one go with a voice over navigation direction. Sometimes you may only get half a sentence in one item. Well by grouping, that also may or may not happen, however you stand a lesser chance of it. I guess I personally don't use it, as nested navigation, at least to me, gets me confused. I forget what the last thing was I interacted with, and to breadcrumb my way back to where I began, can be a little weird.

grouping just helps you jump through pages more quickly as it consolidates each group of items into there own, if that makes any sinse.

Chris.



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----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfonzo Cuellar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:13 PM
Subject: Groups Mode


Hi all.

I was screwing around with Groups Mode today, and I am unsure of how to use it.

Could someone explain how to use Groups Mode in Web Navigation?

I know it is quite different from DOM Mode, and I hear it is extremely good once you use Groups Mode.

Help is appreciated.

Take care,

Fonzie




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