Hi Cara,

Esther, thanks, yes, I'd saved all of the appropriate settings, but it was just the scrolling table which threw me.

I did see your note after posting mine, but still didn't find the answer until this one, so a huge thanks yer' way!…

I've only been using Leopard for a few weeks, so I've been surprised about the (many) instances of in which i've encountered flakely focus behavior. Sometimes I hear the sounds that announce the boundaries of the table's scrolling area and sometimes I don't.

Just as a follow-up on my reply, and the earlier linked post about "Content Transfer to the iPod Nano 4G", I did an experiment and switched the settings on the options fro the Summary Page to allow me to manually manage my music and videos. Then I did a drag and drop of a playlist on the the Nano 4G. (The last 3 podcast episodes in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Leopard, where I had previously synced the first three podcasts to my Nano). Sure enough, the files transferred under the manual exchange, but just as I said, there were no sound clips generated for the Nano 4G menu. They show up in the Podcasts section of my 4G directory after the sync'd episodes, they can be viewed in the contents of my Nano under iTunes (with VoiceOver announcing their properties), and they play just fine on the 4G --- there just aren't any title information sound clips for the entries and my wheel goes click, click, click.

So you really don't want to drag and drop playlists onto the Nano 4G if you want to hear titles spoken. As previously mentioned in the "Content Transfer to the iPod Nano 4G" post, when you do a manual transfer with drag and drop to your iPod, the iPod reads the information about the tracks from the file tags. When you do a sync, it uses the iTunes database on your computer which generates sound clips for the tracks you bring over as well as reading the iTunes data base file on your computer to update it's own data base with information about the tracks AND include the sound clips.


Cheers,

Esther

On Sep 21, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Esther wrote:

Hi Cara,

On Sep 21, 2008, at 7:34 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

Hey All, -just have a couple of quickie questions for ya about selecting playlists to sync with the nano. In the music tab, I have my nano set to only sync selected playlists. In the table, only ten playlists are shown, and I cannot seem to access any others than those. Unfortunately, none of them are lists I wish to sync! ick! I've created a playlist specifically for this purpose, but I can't seem to either manually sync it or have it show up in that table to check it to have it automatically synced.


How do you have your Options set on the Summary page of your Nano? If it came up without "Sync only checked songs and videos" checked or with "Manually manage music and videos" checked you'll have to change the settings to what you want -- this is probably with the following options checked:
"Open iTunes when this iPod is connected
"Sync only checked songs and videos"
"Enable spoken menus for accessibility"

(First and last came up checked automatically for me with VoiceOver turned on)

If you change your configuration, find the "Update" button and check it

Then go the Music tab. You need to check the box for "Sync Music" and the Radio button for "Selected playlists" (instead of "All songs and playlists"). At that point you should be able to find a list of all the playlists in your iTunes library in the table. It's a scrolling table, so only about 8 entries get listed on my MacBook at a time. Usually (but not always) you'll hear the alert that you've come to the end of the visible table and have to scroll (VO-shift S) then arrow down 7 or 8 times and escape.

In fact, if your other settings are correctly set up, that might be the reason you can't get to the playlists you want checked. Simon posted about this and I added comments about this (yesterday?).


I also tried dragging and dropping it to move it up in my sources list, as it seems that the ten playlists displayed in the IPod table for synced playlists are dependent on where they fall in my sources list. So if I can simply move my created playlist closer to the top of my sources list, I know it will show up in the table, as I've seen this happen before.


The other tip I gave in my post is to create a folder for the playlists that you want to put on your Nano. iTunes orders its playlists alphabetically, but grouped by: first folders and their contents, then smart playlists, then regular playlists. If you create a folder for the playlists that you want to transfer, these playlists will always appear first in the contextual menu lists for "Add to play list", and if you ever do a manual transfer with VoiceOver drag and drop (which you DO NOT WANT TO DO for your Nano 4G), the folder is indeed much closer to the device. (it's also a good check of mastering drag and drop, since if you can drag and drop a play list to the folder, you can drag and drop it to an iPod -- remember to expand the folder with VO-backslash so you can view the contents). The reason you don't want to manually transfer to your Nano is that sound tracks for your 4G only get generated when you sync.

See:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/ msg42164.html
(Content transfer to the iPod Nano 4g)

for details.



Unfortunately, I can't seem to get it to drag and drop! double ick! lol!

So aside from the rather hacky practice of moving all of my desired content to a playlist with an unrelated name which already shows up in my syncing table, does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do to access other playlists than the ones already shown up in the table in the music tab of my nano? Sorry for this basic question, for what should be so simple, but it's just being a royal PIMA at the moment! lol!

Anyway, am sooo diggin' on my lil pinky IPod! I've got a bit of traveling ahead in the next few days, so will have 12 hours in the air to catch up on some recent TV shows I haven't had time to check out lately! <smile>

Anyway, hope yer' all havin' a terrific Sunday! Catch y'all laters!…

Cheers,

Esther

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