one tutorial did ou say? what was that quickstart launcher command again? I don't mean to be harsh, but sounds like you need to do some more reading. You can get large hard drives on the notebooks too and for that matter, if you really want an hd that large, you can get an external. I have an Imac and love it but I also have a MacBook Pro with a fast hard drive in it and it is even too slow sometimes not being critical of the hardware but the MacBook Pros are now newer. If you must have a desktop sstem, you can't go rong and it is an inexpensive option compared to the power you will want in a MacBook Pro, It just takes up a lot of space you may not need to take up. Also, the speakers are good, but I'd use externals anyway because they bring out the lows better.
Now, if you have read this far, There is no direct way to import outlook express mail but exchange mail can be imported. For Mail, you will want to learn and use the only accessible client for the Mac and that comes with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rimpau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mac visionaries list" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:58 AM Subject: my trip to the apple store Hi all, I just got back from the apple store in San Francisco, where I played with an i-mac, and got awfully frustrated, because the sales people knew nothing about voice over, or key board commands, and I wanted to see if I could do that quick start thing, after hearing Edward Alonzo's tutorial. I won't chock it up to a bad experience, because they don't know about voice over, but at one point, I had to say to one of the sales people, how am I supposed to be interested in the mac, if nobody knows anything about how to interact from the perspective of the key board. I still am interested in the mac, but it is frustrating when mouse users only know how to use a mouse, and another part of the frustration was that I forgot the quick start command, it turns out it is command option control f8, and I was just doing control option f8, which takes you in to the voice over utility. I finally got help with that, and did most of the quick start things, but the things like command option shift c, or command option shift r, just yielded dings, so I eventually skipped that part, but one thing I don't understand, if you move the cursor to a table, you can just down arrow through it, with no top or bottom reference, but when I interacted with the table, it said text japanese, or text german, etcetera, and when I tried pressing control option shift r for row, or control option shift c for column, it just dinged at me. I still have to get around the concept of having to interact with a table, or something like that, but if I get a mac, I will probably get an i-mac, because I want a large hard drive, and at least 2gb of ram. Can you import your address book into the mac mail program, as well as your account, so you don't lose any of your messages, because if I can import my address book, and the .act files, which have my folders and my filter settings, then I can have my lists on the mac computer with the assigned sounds I want for my various lists. I understand that pm mail has a version of their program for the mac, but it did not have ssl encription. When I left the apple store, I did instruct the salesman to thank the lady that was originally helping me out, so I am in no way bitter at the lack of knowledge they exhibited toward voice over. If anybody needs anymore information, let me know, and I will give it to you. Marty
