Hello Jacob; So, I was partially right only confused the issue a
little. The reason for this is that the texas state library offers
some of their books on tape through overdrive for free. You can
download them, paly them, burn them to a cd, or play them on a pda and
maybe an mp3 player. It would be nice if overdrive or mozilla would
work to be accessible by apples, but it doesn't sound like that is
very promising. I guess the next best thing would be for nls to be
persuaided to partner with a different provider. Its a shame
though. Thanks for clearing this up for me. Take care, Max
On Sep 23, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi
For clarification on the security issue, Overdrive are correct in
one sense. Apple does not have a format similar to WMA with built-in
DRM. What they do have and use, however, are mp4 containers with AAC
audio. While these do not have any DRM coding at their base, the MP4
container can have any DRM scheme placed inside it that the
developers wish. Apple has licensed Fairplay for this, but Overdrive
could develop their own along with a player and utilize this format
as well, or license Fairplay themselves, or any other DRM scheme.
It's easier for them to blame Apple, though rather than to actually
license or create a DRM scheme for MP4/AAC. Too bad Overdrive hasn't
entered into a similar agreement with Apple as Audible has, where by
the books are available in an iTunes audiobook format (DRM included)
on the iTunes store, as that would be one way for Overdrive to not
have to deal with licensing DRM and Apple would do the rest.
However, if Macs keep rising in market share the way they have been
for quite a while now, Overdrive may have to implement something for
Mac users, but who knows when that will happen?
This has absolutely nothing to do with NLS books, which are another
can of worms altogether.
Regarding Firefox, it is not accessible and, if Mozilla continues to
be obstinate about things, I doubt it ever will be Voiceover
accessible as Mozilla seems to want to go their own way rather than
integrating their GUI with calls to the Apple accessibility
infrastructure. As firefox is not a native OS X application, it does
not benefit from any of Apple's accessibility efforts without the
help of the Mozilla developers, who seem to want to dictate to Apple
how Voiceover should work with their application.
On Sep 23, 2008, at 18:05, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
Hello; I will then admit I was mistaken. But the overdrive
website does talk about playing them on pda's and mp3 players. I
will now have to do more research to see where I went wrong. I do
know they say that you can't do it with an apple because of the drm
security issue. I'm sorry. Thanks, Max
On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:01 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
ah, nls books will not play on the IPod.
On Sep 23, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
Hello; I've been told that you can work around the problem with
the overdrive media console that the texas state library and
several others use if you run firefox or mozilla instead of
safari, but I haven't found either of these to be accessible.
Does anyone know if there is a script or something for firefox.
They also have a web editing plug in that would be sweet. But if
you also have a windows computer, or if you are running windows on
your mac through fusion, bootcamp, etc; then you can put nls audio
books on your ipod. I don't have windows on my mac yet, and my
windows desk top is at home; so I'm stuck for the time being. I
hope this helps. Take care, Max
On Sep 23, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Chris Gilland Desktop wrote:
NLS books on an IPod? Wo! Yeah, I agree, now that! would be
sw'w'weet!
Chris.
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Subject: Re: iPod question
And I also have an Icon or more accurately the Braille Plus. I
very much appreciate the Braille Plus, but truly the iPod
offers some distinct advantages such as no physical hard drive,
quite speedy to move from track to track with no choppy
buffering, and yes, a small size. I do wish Apple and the
National Library Service could work together on making it
possible to load NLS books on the iPod. Now that would be
mighty cool for sure.
Max Ivey Jr.
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The Midway Marketplace
Office 936-273-6960
Cell 281-989-0448
www.midwaymarketplace.com
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Max Ivey Jr.
The Midway Marketplace
Office 936-273-6960
Cell 281-989-0448
www.midwaymarketplace.com
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